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- From: baylissb@topaz.ucq.edu.au
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Where is background energy going?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec15.194552.13119@topaz.ucq.edu.au>
- Date: 15 Dec 92 19:45:52 AET
- References: <1992Dec12.215859.22026@netcom.com> <1992Dec14.202952.13117@topaz.ucq.edu.au> <Dec.14.12.34.01.1992.3360@ruhets.rutgers.edu>
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- In article <Dec.14.12.34.01.1992.3360@ruhets.rutgers.edu>, bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes:
- > baylissb@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
- >
- >>In article <klunk>, rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
- >>> An interesting question came up on an unlikely mailing list. We observe
- >>> that the wavelength of the background radiation has decreased as the
- >>> universe has expanded. This implies loss of energy does it not?
- >>> Where is that energy going and what is the vehicle of interchange.
- >>> Photons don't emit photons and energy transfer must be quantized
- >>> according to QM. (John Baez, I would particularly appreciate a
- >>> response from you)
- >
- >>Forgetting about GM (as I have not looked into it yet), but with my background
- > ^^ General Motors? Well, they could manage to lose
- > anything, including energy.
- >>in optics, I would guess that the refractive index of the university is
- >>changing. ^^^^^^^^^^
- > Ah yes, mine is almost totally opaque to any form of communication ...
- >
- >>If this is the case, then energy would not be lost, but explains the change in
- >>frequency of the wavelenght being considered (sorry if i misinterrupted your
- >>question).
- >
- > This, I don't understand. Ordinary refractive materials don't significantly
- > change the wavelength of an incident beam, just its direction (speed,
- > equivalently).
-
- What sort of change in wavelenght are we talking about (magnitude of change,
- etc)
-
- > .............. When the refractive index has an imaginary part then
- > incident light is absorbed, but still undergoes no change in wavelength.
- > In any case, the universe is mostly vacuum and there is nothing to do
- > the refracting.
-
- Are we really sure!!!! Has anybody been able to measure the 'vacuum' of space
- say on the other side of the milky way?? If not, how can we be sure???
-
- > ................ Energy _is_ lost in the expanding universe, not through
- > photon interaction with matter or other photons, but because standards
- > of length change in an expanding universe. It goes, and goes, and goes,
- > and goes ... I believe this is in the FAQ.
-