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- From: converse@cs.uchicago.edu (Tim Converse)
- Subject: Re: Naming Large Numbers (Re: Negative Zero)
- In-Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:49:30 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec18.104930.4583@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser") writes:
- >wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
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- >> Theoretically speaking, one can. Assuming one
- >>can write down pi primitive recursively (I think one can) one can even write
- >>your number down primitive recursively, which is as near practicality as
- >>mathematicians ever get.
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- >One can't. Pi is not a computable number. This was proven by Alan Turing, I
- >think.
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- >Seth L. Blumberg
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- No -- Turing proved that non-computable numbers exist. Pi
- is not one of them, since it is easy to write a program that will
- keep cranking out digits of pi for as long as you like. It's true
- that this program will never stop (is that what you're thinking of?),
- but that is equally true of a program that computes 1/3.
-
- What Turing meant by numbers that aren't computable is that there
- doesn't exist a program that will keep generating digits of the number
- correctly. Numbers like this must exist, simply because programs are
- countable and the reals are not.
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- Tim Converse
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