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- From: dwilkins@maths.tcd.ie (David Wilkins)
- Subject: Re: Student attitudes
- Message-ID: <1992Dec14.123628.28205@maths.tcd.ie>
- Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
- References: <1g6gsjINNou3@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Dec10.164109.17533@hubcap.clemson.edu> <11DEC199208420044@cycvax.nscl.msu.edu>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:36:28 GMT
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- In article <11DEC199208420044@cycvax.nscl.msu.edu> burtt@cycvax.nscl.msu.edu (BRIAN BURTT) writes:
- >>
- >An idea for a college/university large enough to offer several calculus
- >sections:
- > Split the calculus sequence into three parts:
- > a) a sequence oriented to physical scientists and engineers that
- >targets the math useful to them-- this is essentially freshman calculus
- >as we know it
- > b) a sequence oriented to economists, business students, statisticians,
- >etc., which give them calculus without relying on "physics" problems
- >that are what calc textbooks normally have
- > c) a sequence oriented to mathematicians, that covers the theoretical
- >aspects of calculus and offers a very early introduction to proofs and
- >developing maturity of mathematical thought.
- > Before I get flamed: I not advocating either insulating scientists
- >totally from mathematical theory, or mathematicians from the applications
- >of their work. I just think the classes should be a little more relevant
- >to those who take them.
- > I am a student, not an educator, so I'm no expert and welcome
- >comments and criticism.
-
- The above is an almost exact description of the system that operates
- here. Main differences: students in the theoretical physics degree
- programme take the courses in with the mathematicians, not the natural
- scientists; the statisticians are put in with the engineers, not the
- economists and business students; the computer scientists are given
- separate courses; there are separate service courses for the scientists
- and for the engineers.
-
- As regards whether we are `large enough' to operate the system we
- do operate, our department consists of 15 permanent full-time teachers,
- two part-time teachers, and one full-time teacher on a 9 month contract.
- As such, we cover pure mathematics, theoretical computer science, classical
- applied mathematics and theoretical physics. We teach all courses
- taken by undergraduate mathematicians with the exception of courses
- in statistics and more practical aspects of computer science (taught
- by the respective departments of statistics and computer science).
- We teach over half of the courses taken theoretical physicists
- (from introductory analysis and abstract algebra to quantum
- mechanics and general relativity). We also teach the separate
- `service' courses for natural scientists, engineers and computer
- scientists, and staff from the economics department cover the
- courses for economists, social scientists and business students.
-
- DRW
-