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- From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
- Subject: Re: Education crisis (was RE: how much math...)
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- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:10:16 GMT
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- In article <PRENER.92Dec12015805@prener.watson.ibm.com> prener@watson.ibm.com (Dan Prener) writes:
- >In article <1gac6gINNfeo@agate.berkeley.edu> bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:
- >
- >> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
- >> > erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold) writes:
- >> >>If a child wants to learn about dinosaurs, let him or her learn about
- >> >>dinosaurs. If they want learn about football, let them learn about football.
- >> >
- >> >This ignores the problem of prerequisites. The point of a curriculum is
- >> >so that the background is there when it is needed. This holds even for
- >> >graduate students.
- >
- >> Graduate students, yes. Little kids, no. It makes sense that as one gets
- >> older, more mature, more able to understand the delayed rewards of education,
- >> one can be expected to accept a more disciplined schooling.
- >
- > [ ... and more ... ]
- >
- >For two reasons, I arrive at the opposite conclusion.
- >
- > (1) Little kids are less likely to question authority.
- >
- > (2) Little kids learn much faster.
- >
- >For these two reasons, I think educators have not only the opportunity, but
- >the obligation to use their authority to cram as much knowledge(*) into
- >little kids' heads as they reasonably can. This amounts to a blatantly
- >paternalistic "Learn this now, because I say so, rather than later, when
- >you realize it might be useful." But the fact that little kids' learning
- >capacity is so much greater than that of older people makes it a kindness.
-
- How about a balance of both? Actually, I think this was the point of
- the original post. Naturally, if we let the kids choose all that they
- learn, they won't be ready for everything they need to be when they need
- to be. However, I think the method of cramming all knowledge in because
- we want it in contributes to poor attitudes later on. A child needs to
- be exposed to a certain amount of learning of his choosing so he can see
- that learning can be fun. He can then carry over these successes to
- other subjects.
-
- >This argument is in no way specific to mathematics; it applies in many
- >disciplines. Think how appropriate it is for languages.
- >
- >(*) I do not, of course, mean randomly or capriciously selected knowledge.
- > However flawed it may be, the traditional selection for little kids
- > is preferable to current fads, since one of the benefits of formal
- > education is its conservative nature.
- >--
-
-
- Jeff wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
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