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- From: kenneth@davy.uio.no (Kenneth Ruud)
- Subject: Re: TIME HAS INERTIA - BASS JEALOUS AND INSECURE-ABIAN VALIDATED
- In-Reply-To: abian@iastate.edu's message of Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:55:23 GMT
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- <1992Dec12.195654.7419@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> 12-12-92
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- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:02:26 GMT
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- In article <abian.724200923@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu> abian@iastate.edu (Alexander Abian) writes:
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- > Nevermind the article in NEW SCIENTIST, I was told that
- > in France and Germany there are conferences studying TIME HAS INERTIA
- > topic and that THEY ARE MORE AND MORE CONVINCED THAT in all those
- > cases where there is a PUSZZLING LOSS OF ENERGY - ABIAN's (A2) IS
- > THE NSWER:
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- > (A2) TIME HAS INERTIA (i.e. TIME IS MATTER) AND SOME ENERGY IS
- > IRRETRIEVABLY DISSIPATEED TO MOVE TIME FORWARD
- >
- > AND NONE OF THE existing theories is capable to explain the puzzling
- > loss of energy and that (A2) revolutionized both GR and QM.
- >
- There has come a lot of postings about this subject lately (and I have always
- wondered wether it really concerned the newsgroup sci.chem) and I have tried
- to ignore the discussion. As a chemist I see no need to throw myself over
- this new "theory" (A2). Until it proves itself worthy as a theory I see no need
- to spend my time on this theory.
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- There are enormously many different ways of discribing our universe at
- different levels of approximations, and I see no need for a theory that might
- be "more correct" than any other, if it does not give results which no other
- theory does, or is easier in use than already existing theories.
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- It is interesting to read that the theory might give an answer to results one
- at present cannot understand, but this is a matter for physicists, and until
- they show that the theory really explains such phenomenon, I personally say
- that this discussion should not take place in sci.chem.
- >
- > BASS, why don't you broadcast to the entire Europe and in fact to the
- > entire globe to discard my TIME HAS INERTIA based on nonverifiability,
- > nonpredictability and nonquantifiability of my ideas. Do it, save the
- > decadent status quo of "Scientific verifiability, predictability and
- > quantifiability". Save the neanderthalish precambrian mentality that
- > matter does not act in such a way as to gain a feeling of security.
- > Why don't you ridicule this too (which will again, according to (A3)
- > prove that you like to knock people down to gain a feeling of security)
- >
- > In fact, to prove my ideas, I need your type of persons - you are
- > a best experimental verification of that
- >
- > (A3) GAINING A FEELING OF SECURITY
- >
- > is the basic, fundamental Physical Law motivating the actions of everything -
- > of particles, of electrons of SPACE of galaxies of people ( of their
- ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
- > jealousies, their fanaticism, their sarcasm,t heir envy of not being "The
- > FIrst", etc., etc).
- >
- Hmmm, I have to admit that I probably joined to late to get the first
- posting concerning these rules, but this (A3) seems to be a most useless
- principle I have seen (I haven't seen much, but still...). I can understand
- that this principle applies for human relationships, but then the principle is
- more of a philosophical statement than a physical principle.
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- I do not know how you think that particles and electrons "gains" feeling of
- security. It sounds to me as if though you give the particle human attributes
- like for instance "feelings", how can that be. I know, as you say later on, the
- concept "security" is not to be mistaken with the concept we use when
- considering human relationships, but some connection there has to be, after
- all, you look upon Bass as one of the best verifications of the principle.
- >
- > The sooner Science and Physics accepts (A3) the sooner they will
- > progress from their blind status quo maintaining decadent mentality
- > (which undoubtedly gives them a feeling of security - although false)
- > and gain a more powerful, correct and truthful feeling of security
- >
- > I am trying to put the science on the correct foundation - that gives
- > me a feeling of security.
- >
- > DO NOT ASK what is the Definition of "SECURITY" - nothing can define it
- > -it is the basic, the fundamentally elemental term
- >
- I am afraid I can't help it. I have to ask what the definition of the term
- SECURITY is. If it is impossible to define, how are you to apply it? If it is
- possible to see the effects of the principle, then it should be possible to
- define the term, not necessarily by itself, but at least by it's consequences,
- as is the case for the term "Force". If this is not possible, then I can see
- know need for the principle. If it is impossible to apply, it useless at a
- scientific principle.
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- I myself can make up any theory whatsoever, claiming to explain everything, as
- long as all the concepts involved in this theory is impossible to define
- clearly. I cannot see that any new insight is gained by such a theory, and I
- would for that reason not consider it when choosing a theory for describing the
- universe.
- >
- > IT IS THE LIFE ITSELF, IT IS THE SCIENCE, THE PHYSICS ITSELF
- >
- > (and the above is not a Definition of SECURITY -it is just a vague subconscious
- > description).
- >
- > With love Alexandrer Abian
- >
- And once more, I don't think this discussion is of much interest to the readers
- of the newsgroup sci.chem, but if there is anyone out there disagreeing with
- me, please say so!
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- With love
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- Kenneth
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- The tendency of maintaining the status-quo, Reaction to provocation and
- The tendency of maintaining again a status-quo.
- TIME HAS INERTIA and some energy is lost to move Time forward
- E = mcc (Einstein) must be replaced by E = m(0) exp(-At) (Abian)
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- _______________________________________________________________________________
- Kenneth Ruud, doing Chemical Physics at the Department of Chemistry,
- University of Oslo, Norway. E-mail: kenneth@dalton.uio.no
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- I don't know what the computer language of the year 2000 will look like, but
- I know it will be called FORTRAN.
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