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- From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: The Ecocentric Criterion (again)
- Distribution: world
- Message-ID: <724813273snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
- References: <STEINLY.92Dec17150140@topaz.ucsc.edu>
- Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 01:01:13 GMT
- Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents
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- In article <STEINLY.92Dec17150140@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu writes:
-
- > Hey, if it makes 'em feel good to get all macho that's fine,
- > I feel no more obliged to evaluate my society by their standards
- > than they accept my evaluation of them by my standard.
- > But don't err on the other side, is it any better in any objective
- > sense to be able to survive naked in a desert or wearing
- > a tie in downtown LA?
-
- Well, I never intended to imply that they feel *good* about it, just
- that they accept their lot in life and endeavour to get on with it
- instead of sitting back whinging and complaining all the time from a
- position of coddled privilege protected from reality by force of arms.
-
- Your question on whether it may be "better" in any objective sense is
- simply not valid; when naked in the desert one does whatever one needs
- to do to survive, as alone in the big city one does whatever one needs
- to do there to survive. That is, one merely adapts and strives . . .
-
- > If some people do not wish to seek health, long life or
- > soft lounge chairs then let them go their own way - I do think
- > they should be presented with the option and allowed to make
- > an informed choice though - of course even that becomes a problem
- > when the choice is to accept smallpox vaccine (with attendant risk
- > of cultural contamination) or to suffer nobly, die or bear your
- > scars with pride... and remain a reservoir of infection to the
- > rest of us.
-
- Well, yes of course. The point of the matter is that they are denied
- such choice, usually by armed force against them if you care to pay
- more attention to what is actually happening in most countries of the
- world. There is no point criticising the very many who live on the
- municipal dumps in the Philipinnes for refusing adequate health care,
- as an example, without paying attention to the soldiers armed with
- machine guns who guard the rich farm land inhabited by the very few.
-
- The world is *not* democratic, and criticism of people on the basis of
- their having failed to make the appropriately free choices toward the
- betterment of their own lot in life is preposterous. Why don't you
- criticise the real arseholes around the place instead?
-
- BTW, there is *no* "cultural contamination" involved in technology
- transfer and adequate health care. Such nonsense is the province of
- the world's lunatics . . .
-
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