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- From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: The Ecocentric Criterion (again)
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- Message-ID: <724563581snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
- References: <1992Dec15.222425.17854@vexcel.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 03:39:41 GMT
- Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents
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- In article <1992Dec15.222425.17854@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com writes:
-
- >I've read Sahlins thesis of the affluent society, and while
- >it makes some excellent original points, I feel the thesis
- >is too often taken too far. In particular, it relies on a
- >relative definition of affluence, where people become inured
- >to hardships to the point where they're no longer considered
- >hardships - which is subjectively true, but says more about
- >the flexibility of the human psyche than the happiness and
- >health of people (defined by some "objective" measure, in
- >so far as that is possible).
-
- Sure, "taken too far" is as subjective. We had a recent thread on
- sci.anthropology which touched on the subjectivity of indigenous
- peoples in relation to the apparent objectivity of "science". I
- certainly have no problem with subjective truths, except where the
- Western "scientists" strut around pretending that their subjective
- truths are somehow more objective and universal than others'.
-
- You might also attend to the somewhat annoying fact that people who
- have "become inured to hardship to the point where they're no longer
- considered hardships" tend to regard the so sophisticated Westerners
- as wimpy little shits. I mean, what do they want all those comforts,
- human "rights", hysterical political ideologies and excessive energy
- consumption for, like infants swaddled up in a humidicrib with tubes
- coming out everywhere just to survive. What, can't they handle the wind
- in their hair, or the sun on their face, or that flake of obsidian used
- for circumcision by that old father-in-law?
-
- Well, every time I come back in from the bush all the white city
- people look to me very worried, anaemic and sick indeed, after weeks
- of robust, energetic black faces smiling and enjoying life around me.
- I still to this day wonder what such dreadful problems are that the
- whites feel they have to contend with that nobody else has any worry
- about at all, or is it just the old "White Man's Burden", perhaps?
-
- Do you people actually suffer so to watch others suffer? Maybe the old
- blackfella should do some more suffering just to stick it up you a bit
- more. Give you something to *really* suffer over, yes? Bloody stupid
- bullshit it all is . . .
-
- BTW, the objective measures already available pertain to family size,
- and mortality and morbidity rates correlated against such factors as
- loss of land, disenfranchisement, dislocation and marginalisation,
- bureaucratic interference, proportional rates of incarceration, and
- so on. If you are concerned about the health and population dynamics
- of indigenous peoples and find yourself averse to "propaganda", you
- might like to read the following by noted medical practitioners, as
- examples;
-
- Kamien M. 1978
- The Dark People of Bourke: A study in planned social change
- Canberra: AIAS
-
- Beck E.J. 1985
- The Enigma of Aboriginal Health: Interaction between
- biological, social and economic factors in Alice Springs
- town-camps
- Canberra: AIAS
-
- also
-
- Collmann J. 1988
- Fringe-dwellers and Welfare: The Aboriginal response to
- bureaucracy
- St Lucia: U. Queensland Press
-
- Enjoy.
-
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