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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:44:31 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- In article <1992Dec17.165111.10240@vexcel.com>, dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
- >It seems that the energy would never be more than in a tank of gasoline
- >and that it need not be shielded any better than that tank of gasoline
- >for it to be considered as an alternative from the perspective of
- >safety. We know how dangerous an exploding gas tank can be but we
- >also know that it doesn't explode too often.
-
- Dean, try the following experiment: Take a fairly small amount of gasoline,
- dump it on the ground, and light it (carefully, and preferably from a distance).
- Measure how long it takes to burn. Make an estimate of how long it would take
- to burn, say, 10 gallons of gasoline in similar circumstances. You're probably
- going to come up with an estimate of at least 15 minutes (at least you would if
- you'd ever seen a gasoline fire). Now, 15 minutes is 900 seconds. Assuming
- the flywheel had even 1/9 the energy as that found in a tankful of gasoline,
- and that the catastrophic failure of the flywheel takes a full second (both of
- which are pretty generous assumptions in your favor), then the power generated
- by the failure of the flywheel will be 100 times that of the burning of the
- tank of gasoline. Note the critical distinction between total energy and
- power. That flywheel's going to make one hell of a big bang. And it's going
- to do it before anybody has a chance to get away from the car. The gasoline
- explosion's going to be very mild in comparison, though the heat released as
- the rest of the gasoline burns non-explosively will be pretty intense.
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- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
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- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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