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- From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Message-ID: <1992Dec17.011649.987@cmkrnl.com>
- Date: 17 Dec 92 01:16:49 PST
- References: <1992Dec13.114534.961@cmkrnl.com> <1992Dec15.004956.465@mtu.edu> <1992Dec15.194558.2556@adobe.com> <1992Dec16.192456.6261@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec16.192456.6261@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,
- andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang) writes:
- > <I have to admit an emotional response to this since I think that
- > flywheels have tremendous potential.>
-
- The flywheel is a great way to store mechanical energy. However I'm not
- certain about the means for using it. Somehow the energy must be gotten
- outside of the container. Mechanical couplings are probably out -- too much
- friction. I suspect that there could be magnets on the flywheel shaft which
- would energize a stator coil placed around the outside of the flywheel container
- (tolerances would have to be really tight here). Or perhaps the entire
- alternator could be put inside the container.
-
- Then we come to electric motors to drive the wheels. Electric motors have
- wonderful torque/speed characteristics for vehicles (they generate maximum
- torque just before stall speed, which may make transmissions and clutches
- unnecessary) but lousy power density -- look at the size of a 1-hp. electric
- motor sometime and tell me how big a motor would have to be to accelerate a
- car fast enough to keep up with gasoline-powered ones.
-
- Maybe hydraulics? Hydraulic "motors" have the same great torque as electrics
- and can be incredibly small for a given power level. The hydraulic pump
- could be inside the flywheel housing; there could be a bypass valve which would
- be cut in for "idling". You'd lose something to the friction of the fluid in
- the piping but not much.
-
- Maybe the greatest thing about the flywheel is that, if you design the system
- right, you brake by turning the system back on itself and pumping energy back
- into the flywheel. (This can be made to work for battery-powered electric cars
- too, but it works best with the flywheel, since the flywheel can absorb energy
- at just about any rate you can throw at it, while there are strict limits on
- how fast you can pump watt-seconds into a battery.) This gets rid of the
- second biggest waster of energy in a car (after the thermal losses in the
- engine) -- the brakes!
-
- (I can't help thinking that if we were more creative about ways to use "waste
- heat" we would all be a lot richer (and the Arabs would be poorer). )
-
- --- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
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