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- From: bomr@erich.triumf.ca (Rod Nussbaumer)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: 87c51 or 8051 with eprom????
- Date: 11 Dec 1992 15:30 PST
- Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
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- In article <1992Dec9.130311.18309@ms.uky.edu>, billq@ms.uky.edu (Billy Quinn) writes...
- >I have an 8051 based design and I am not sure whether I should use an
- >8051/EPROM/latch or just the single 8751 for mass production. My design uses
- >no external memory and the code is less than 1K. I'm looking for a decision
- >based on the cost of 1000 PCB's made (sort of a fictional situation). I
- >will make the following statements assuming that I am correct, and let any
- >one out there interested in commenting tell me why I am right or wrong.
- >
- >1) Using an 8051 with an EPROM and latch will require more board space
- > and holes to drill. This will also make PCB layout a little tougher
- > and a more expensive process.
- >
- >2) The 87c51's cost way more than 8051/EPROM/latch but it will still be
- > cheaper to do it this way because the added cost of the PCB (using
- > 8051/EPROM/latch) will be greater.
-
- You've overlooked a few terms in the equation.
- 1. The cost of programming the EPROM vs the 87C51
- 2. The additional costs associated with the EPROM,
- such as the address latch, sockets, assembly, procurement
- costs, additional bypass caps, and possibly greater
- power supply costs. There may be other costs I've
- overlooked.
- 3. Field upgradabilty. Cheap with EPROM, expensive with
- 87C51. Also, you can build the device with the possibilty
- of using various EPROM sizes, and purchase based on
- best cost more easily. Same goes for the CPU if it's
- decoupled from the PROM.
- 4. The quality of the device will *generally* be better if
- it has fewer parts.
- 5. The 1000 part number is about where mask programmed parts
- start to become viable. These will be a lot cheaper than
- EPROM CPUs. Also, one-time-programmable (OTP) EPROM CPUs
- are available, which can significantly reduce the cost.
- 6. An alternative to the ordinary EPROM is the Intel 87C64
- and 87C257 EPROM parts, which have built-in address latch.
-
- Hope this gives you something to chew on...
-
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