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- From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: "Dumping"
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- Date: 14 Dec 92 18:54:15 GMT
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- In article <louis.724349346@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> louis@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Louis Schmittroth) writes:
- >brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
-
- >|One thing I find interesting is that when news of changes for the better
- >|occur in employment, they are criticized by the left no matter what segment
- >|they occue in. If the new jobs are well-paying, they claim that this neglects
- >|the poor. If the growth is in low-wage jobs, they complain that it is "McJobs"
- >
- >It isn't high wages that causes the American companies to be
- >non-competitive, it is the low productivity.
-
- Yet overall, US productivity is the highest in the world (source:
- Economist).
-
- > Lester Throw reports and
- >documents that Germany is the leading exporter of textiles with wages
- >running about $4 an hour higher than US textile workers. They work
- >smarter with better machines, better management, and a different view of
- >human resources. Helmut Kohl and crew cannot be put down as leftists.
-
- I disagree with this latter statement. The policies of European
- centrist parties like the Christian Democrats, et al, are about
- comparable to the left (Ted Kennedy, et al) wing of the US
- Democratic party. The US has no major equivalent of the
- European Social Democrat/British Labour parties.
-
-
- >In general I find the old tired classification of left and right as
- >irrelevant in today's world, and certainly do not put myself down as
- >left, anymore than Ross Perot is either left or right.
-
- In general I agree with this, but the public still widely employs
- these labels.
-
- In any case the fact remains that US unemployment peaked a few
- months ago at 7.6%, significantly lower than the EC average
- of 9.5%. I still claim that jobs are, and will continue to
- be for the rest of the decade, the most important political
- measure of the US economy. While economists measure an economy
- by its production of goods and services (GDP, etc), it is increas-
- ingly clear that average people measure an economy by its production
- of decent jobs.
-
- But it is also clear by the chronically high rates of unemployment
- in Europe that the European model doesn't offer much insight for
- us.
-
-
-
- ---peter
-
-
- PS -- Relevant to this is an article in today's Wall Street Journal
- about the US' growing, one might even say burgeoning, high
- tech industry. By almost any metric the growth and success
- of that industry segment in recent years has been dramatic.
- I say "almost" because the one exception is in jobs. The
- article even suggested that from an employemt viewpoint it
- might even be a net negative, especially for lower-tier
- workers. So the point I've been making for several years
- on Usenet is reinforced: In the past it wasn't so necessary
- to differentiate "growth" -- an industry that grew in profits,
- sales revenue, or unit shipments (conventional measures of
- growth) also grew in jobs. Today there's a disconnect there
- so wishing for "growth" is no longer enough.
-