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- From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
- Subject: Market Power and Monopolies
- Message-ID: <1992Dec12.000705.5936@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- References: <W0Q==S_@engin.umich.edu> <1992Dec11.170625.15551@oakhill.sps.mot.com> <LbR=7r=@engin.umich.edu>
- Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:07:05 GMT
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- In article <LbR=7r=@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
- >50% is certainly not a monopoly. 'Mono' means 1. The fact that GM
- >had 50% of the market meant that some other companies had the other
- >50%.
-
- But it makes a big difference in the pricing model if they have
- (as they actually did) only two competitors, or if they have thirty
- others making up that 50%.
-
- >Dumping (or predatory pricing) would stipulate that a company
- >would undercut prices of its competitors so as to drive them out of
- >business and assure themselves a monopoly position where they could
- >raise prices substantially to recoup the initial losses. If GM
- >had engaged in predatory pricing, it certainly didn't get them
- >a monopoly position, and it certainly didn't let them charge whatever
- >they wanted for a car. Also notice how well GM has stood to
- >competition. GM is now suffering for past mistakes. Competition,
- >particularly from foreign markets has forced GM to work to become
- >a more efficient competitor, and build a better, higher quality car.
-
- One might argue that rather than realize monopoly profits on a balance
- sheet, GM realized "profits" in other ways, in terms of raising costs
- of white-collar management to non-competitive levels. Unions shared
- in these "profits" to some extent and are suffering now because the
- monopoly/oligopoly profit isn't there any more.
-
- In ways, GM's policy was similar to US Steel's -- realize huge profits
- when you gain market power and let that power and share slowly dissipate.
-
- >|> when GM was undercutting small manufacturers and dealers in the 30's,
- >|> it was dandy for consumers. GM made up for with 30 years of
- >|> killer profits. perhaps that was dumb--NOT. perhaps consumers made
- >|> out in the long run--??
- >
- >Who cares if GM made 'killer' profits. If you check the price of
- >a car, you will find that they never became outrageosly high.
-
- Of course, the technology was improving at the time -- the price of
- cars could very well still have been going down, but still remain
- supracompetitive.
-
- Was GM really undercutting small dealers by dumping in the 30's? Or
- was it more efficient? (Auto-making had remarkable economies of scale
- back then. Less so today.) There might have just been room for three
- big firms in the market, and whoever got big first would have won, and
- it just happened to be GM, Ford, and Chrysler.
- --
- ted frank | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu
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- the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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