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- From: DPierce@world.std.com (Richard D Pierce)
- Subject: Re: tweaks for cheap speakers
- Message-ID: <Bz9oCr.IMJ@world.std.com>
- Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
- References: <12DEC199222565782@rigel.tamu.edu> <1992Dec14.184317.17716@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:46:01 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec14.184317.17716@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
- >|> I wanted better bass response out of my el-cheapo Yamaha speakers
- >|> (model NS-4), so I pushed them back against the wall. (They had been
- >|> sitting out about 8-10 inches from >|> it.) Voila! More bass.
- >|>
- >|> Now, however, I'm really noticing how "mushy" the bass is. Was the
- >|> bass always this mushy, and I just didn't notice it before? Or is this
- >|> another effect of the speakers being closer to the wall? And most
- >|> importantly, is there anything I can do to "tighten" up the bass, without
- >|> losing too much of the response, that will cost very little? (If I had
- >|> money I'd just buy some better speakers.)
- >|> In other words, I want a free lunch.
- >|> Any suggestions?
- >
- >Get an equalizer. Pick up an eq with 10-12 bands per side. You should be
- >able to get one used fairly cheap. This will allow you to compensate for
- >your room acoustics and should allow you to tighten the bass. You may be
- >able to move the speakers back out (if you can, get some speaker stands
- >with spiked feet - a fairly inexpensive tweak).
-
- It's a common myth that an equalizer is useful in this application. The
- actual utility of equalizers is actually quite limited. They are good for
- correcting simple non-delay, minimum phase type response errors due to
- low-order electrical and mechanical problems, and little else. A very good
- equalizer is useful to someone such as myself, where I might be zeroing in
- on the final stages of a crossover design, and will use an equalizer to
- try out slight variations in network response before finalizing a
- prototype. Otherwise, mine gathers dust.
-
- A room which has a serious narrow-band resonance simply won't be touched
- by an equalizer, no matter how sophisticated or how carefully adjusted.
- The problems associated with room acoustics are often ones that manifest
- themselves as excessively long reverberation times in narrow bands. No
- amount of equalization is going to change the revereration or decay time
- of such a resonance. As an example, I recently tried to EQ out a nasty 8
- dB 250 Hz peak in a samll auditorium I was doing some audio for. The
- reverb time at 250 Hz was four times surrounding bands. I had the use of a
- 1/3 and a 1/6 octave equalizer. Even cutting the 250 Hz bands totally in
- both equalizers made no real audible difference, even the the analyzer
- should about a 4 dB reduction in the peak. In fact, the resyulting system
- sounded less intelligable as a result.
-
- If your speakers sound mushy, it's possible that they are mushy, and
- moving them closer to the wall simply accentuated the problem to the point
- of annoyability. It's certainly possible with the speakers you're using.
- Far more expensive and pretentious Yamaha speakers are known to suffer
- from similar problems. No equalizer will help a design defect such as
- this. In all likelyhood, no cheap fix will help either.
-
- What to do? well, with these speakers, my choice would probably be to get
- them away from the walls and tolerate the now thin bass again. My own
- personaly preference is for less mush at the expense of less apparent bass.
-
- For the amount of money a decent equalizer would cost, and for the
- amount of time you'd spend on dubious "tweaks", you'd be far better
- off savings towards speakers which better satisfy your listening needs.
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