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- From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
- Subject: Re: Do I really need 200W?
- Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:47:12 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec14.024712.6424@bilver.uucp>
- References: <1992Dec10.165802.318@siemens.co.at>
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- In article <1992Dec10.165802.318@siemens.co.at> howdii@patty.gud.siemens.co.at () writes:
-
- >You have to decide yourself, if you need really 200W.
- >Here some examples:
- >e.g., you have a speaker with a SPL of 90 dB/W/m. (SPL = sound pressure level)
- >To sense, that music is louder, you have to power up for 3 dB.
- >To get music louder for 3 dB, the amplifier must send double power to
- >the speakers as in the moment before.
- >
- >So here is a list of SPL and W according to the example:
- >
- > 1W .... 90 dB
- > 2W .... 93 dB
- > 4W .... 96 dB
- > 8W .... 99 dB
- > 16W .... 102 dB
- > 32W .... 105 dB
- > 64W .... 108 dB
- > 128W .... 111 dB
- > 256W .... 114 dB
- > 512W .... 117 dB
- >1024W .... 120 dB
- >
- >I suppose, a HIFI-speaker with a SPL of 90 dB/W/m can reach a max. SPL of
- >about 110 dB/W/m before beeing destroyed by overpowering. At least, 120 dB
- >will let your ears tingle. You see, Watts are not all. 10 W with the speaker
- >described above will be about 100 dB, and this is much noisy in a normal
- >room.
-
- (rest of the paragraph deleted).
-
- Using the above figures - and given that you want to reproduced the
- recorded sounds as accurately as recorded, 200 W should be about the
- MINIMUM power you would want, if you listen to anything with transients
- and run about 95db in a listening environment.
-
- When in the studio I had great opportunity to observe the differences
- between average power and peak power. Most transients come in at
- about 10db over normal signal, but I have seen cases, typcially
- percussive instruments used in jazz, where 20db peaks have been seen.
-
- If the recording were digitally recorded, and these were not clipped
- during input or recording, and your typically power to the speakers
- was 4 watts, to be able to maintaing a 20db transient with no clipping
- (eg distortion) you would need over 250 watts for an instant.
-
- Most amps used to be able to handle a quick transient at about double
- the rated power, but lately most amps I have seen give only a 2b
- headroom over rated power.
-
- My systems have always had fairly efficient speakers, driven by amps
- that were capable of large amounts of power, but run almost at 'idle'.
-
- I typically run about 2 watts to my speakers, and have lots of
- headroom. I put about 96 db at the listening position - 10-12 feet
- from the speakers with this amount.
-
-
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