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- From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
- Subject: Re: CHP can't use radar?(Was: What radar d
- Message-ID: <1992Dec14.074726.18292@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
- References: <1flc24INN63g@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:47:26 GMT
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- egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
- : In article 1flb20INNreq@tamsun.tamu.edu, henrik@stat.tamu.edu (Henrik Schmiediche) writes:
- : >
- : >On a side note - how to police use aircraft to monitor car speeds?
- :
- : They claim to match speed with the auto, and read the speed. They
- : radio the info and a decription to an officer on the ground who writes
- : the ticket.
-
- I don't think so. All the police air patrols, that I know of, use time
- and distance computers. You may have noticed the stripes by the side of
- the road. Those are the distance markers.
-
- : Any aviator can tell you of the difference in airspeed, which is what
- : is indicated in the cockpit, and ground speed, which is what they claim
- : to be reading. Basically, the two are the same, plus or minus the
- : windspeed, which changes with altitude, so even if there is no wind on
- : the ground, there could be at the plane's altitude.
-
- It is irrelevant. They can determine your speed, even if they are
- flying at right angles to your path. A judge would throw out airspeed
- determinations - to inaccurate.
-
- Groundspeed is not plus/minus windspeed - it depends on your angle to
- the wind.
-
- : There is also the question of how they know they are matching the car's
- : speed. Unless they fly such that the plane's shadow is adjacent to the
- : car, it is very difficult to judge small differences in speed from a
- : distance of several hundred feet.
-
- See above - they don't try.
-
- : Finally, there is some question as to who the ticketing officer is, and
- : who would show up in court to prosecute the case. I would guess both
- : the pilot and the ground cop would need to be there to present a case
- : and allow examiation by the driver. I would guess that the
- : "continually postpone the court date in the hopes that you land a date
- : the officer can't be there so the case gets dismissed" strategy would
- : be particularly effective in this situation.
-
- Nope, only the cop in the plane. He/she is the one who determined your
- speed. The cop on the ground only wrote the ticket.
-
- : There has been extensive discussion of this in the regional group
- : ca.driving, possibly cross posted to rec.autos. It's not really a
- : "consumer" topic.
-
- I hope it was a little more accurate than your posting.
-
- Bill
-