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- From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
- Subject: Re: Dylan supported by GNU in future ?
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:38:35 GMT
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- In article <DREIER.92Dec14235242@durban.berkeley.edu> dreier@durban.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier) writes:
- [...]
- >Sounds almost like the strategy that some folks (can't remember the
- >name of the organization right now, sorry) used a few years back. I
- >seem to remember reading some "Manifesto" or something years ago,
- >promising a free Unix clone; but it seems to just have turned out to
- >be a scam for getting programmers to donate their code to this
- >organization and gulling idealists into proselytizing their silly
- >politics.
-
- Not quite. GNU sofware is 'free'. Dylan as a language is disputably free.
- Dylan as an implementation may or may not be free (depending on your
- requirements, the specific implementation, etc.) And the OS and hardware
- platform is most certainly not free. GNU tools are free. The promised GNU
- Hurd will be free. GNU software runs on a great many hardware/OS platforms
- (no not free but there's a lot of competition) and has a tradition
- ('history' if you will) of very open behavior. Apple has a history of
- locking people (both developers (look'n'feel, patents, etc.) and users) to
- a closed universe. That seems like a big difference to me.
-
- Of course the underlying marketing concept is similar. So what? Marketing
- is a tool to be used to promote you 'product'. I was (clearly?) *not*
- attacking this form a marketing but the company (in this case Apple) using
- it to gain the 'hearts and minds' of developers for a proprietary platform.
-
- If Dylan, as a language, proves to be useful then I (will) give credit to
- Apple for that achievement (yea [sarcasticly said]). That changes my
- opinion of them as a company not one whit (I give them great credit for a
- number of excellent marketing coups but so what? :-).
-
- Thanks,
- John
-
- P.S. I'm speaking solely for myself.
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