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- From: pjc@melb.bull.oz.au (Paul Carapetis)
- Newsgroups: comp.virus
- Subject: Re: FC on virus creation
- Message-ID: <0017.9212141513.AA07337@barnabas.cert.org>
- Date: 9 Dec 92 22:17:58 GMT
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- Fred Cohen said:
-
- > ASP has already introduced one virus-based commercial product
- > (which has never been detected as a virus by any scanner) which
- > operates quite well, and we are in the process of creating another
- > virus-based product designed to operate in LANs. Our users don't seem
- > to be offended by the optimization of resource utilization, automated
- > distribution and installation, high reliability, and small space used
- > by our products based on viruses, but it seems to offend the
- > anti-virus community that all of their overblown claims about all
- > viruses being bad are being undercut by benevolent viruses that are
- > safe and reliable. In fact, most of our viruses work on far more
- > systems than most virus defenses, and they don't spread where they are
- > not supposed to go. They are easy to control and remove, they are
- > compatable with every DOS based system we have seen to date, and they
- > have never generated any unintended side-effects. Kinda blows the
- > whole "all viruses are bad" thing, huh!
-
- I normally just read the virus-l digest and restrain from
- participation as there are many more qualified people to answer the
- many queries, and there is usually a proliferation of such responses.
- The above statement from Dr. Cohen has, however, inspired me to send
- this posting.
-
- I have neither the extent of education or the wealth of experience
- that is possessed by the esteemed Dr. Cohen, but am I alone in my
- skepticism of the above concept?
-
- The subject of benevolent viruses (or "good" viruses) has arisen on
- this forum many times in the past and, indeed, amongst some other
- professionals at various courses and conventions that I have attended
- (including a very informative course given by Prof. Eugene Spafford).
- Discussions on said subject always ended with the decision that it
- seemed impossible to ensure the integrity of the benevolent viruses
- and that should these be modified to become malevolent, they could be
- far more dangerous than the usual "run-of-the-mill" virus as they
- would be propagated with the users' knowledge.
-
- I may be a die-hard skeptic, but I still have trouble believing that
- Dr. Cohen has created a benevolent virus that is immune to
- modification - maybe, if you deem my inquiry warrants a response Fred,
- you could put my (and probably many other peoples') mind(s) at ease on
- this matter.
-
- This is not an attack on Dr. Cohen, just an expression of concern over
- a concept being used and even recommended by him. In fact, I find his
- postings to be informative and usually somewhat controversial which
- has the side effect of promoting discussion - always educational!
-
- Regards and Blueskies from down-under,
- Paul
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