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- From: emike@sdc.com (E. Mike Durbin)
- Subject: Re: LX and SUNOS 4.x - how ?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec14.153014.15047@sdc.com>
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- References: <421@ftms.UUCP> <1992Dec10.140917.20957@epas.toronto.edu> <1ga8msINNf3q@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:30:14 GMT
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- In article <1ga8msINNf3q@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> kleigh@cache.Eng.Sun.COM (Kenneth Leigh - Sun BOS Software) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec10.140917.20957@epas.toronto.edu> tagoldth@spine.med.utoronto.ca (Thomas A. Goldthorpe) writes:
- >>In article <421@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
- >>>
- >>>A little birdie has told me the following information....
- >>>
- >>(Interesting note on how the sun engineers were threatened with
- >>termination due to 'simple to make 4.1.x work, lets do it' statements deleted)
- >>>
- >
- >As project leader for the Classic OS port let me just say that yes it
- >is TRUE that we have mentioned the 4.1.x issue many times but nobody
- >on the "TEAM" has ever been threatened with termination. Sun does not
- >work like this at all. In fact we are encouraged to speak up freely
- >about issues or concerns without fear of termination. I have done so
- >many times with no ill effects.
- >
- >As far as the 4.1.3 for the LX and classsic goes, the decision has been made
- >to go with Solaris 2.x and that's it (right or wrong).
- >
- >KeN
-
- My $.02:
-
- It is in everyones BEST interest, including Sun's, for this transition
- to be put behind us. Waffling between Solaris 1.x and 2.x helps
- no one. Even if you don't like Solaris 2.x, ONE supported OS (with
- all the apps migrated) is better than a mixed up world with some apps
- running in one environment and others only running in the other.
-
- No one should be supprised that Sun isn't supporting Solaris 1.x on the
- new mircoSPARC machines. And to complain too loudly is to be against
- moving forward, EVEN IF YOU THINK SOLARIS 2.0 IS *NOT* BETTER THAN SOLARIS
- 1.0! I don't want Sun's resources split between two operating systems,
- I want Sun to make it's OS better and better (hopefully, they will).
-
- Most likely:
- Sun didn't want to expend the costs (money, resources) to support
- two OS's at a time when getting SMP and other hi-value and highly
- differenciating technologies to market.
-
- Second most likely:
- Sun is using the low cost of the SPARCclassis to force, first
- end users, then ISV's, to move to Solaris 2.x.
-
- I want:
-
- SMP, scaleable from low-end desktop to high-end transaction
- servers.
-
- Ease of use, I take it out of the box, turn it on, and answer
- 1 or 2 questions, then login.
-
- Easy administration. My customers can administer their own
- systems w/o a full time, on sight, administrator.
-
- Remote administration. When my customers get in a bind, I
- want COMPLETE access to their system over a modem.
-
- Full traditional system access (for me). Normal command line UNIX
- (in multiple windows, thought, I'm done with vt220 access).
-
- More Business Apps.
-
- More advanced toolkits (like OI with maybe a database kit ala
- NextSTEP and a kit for distributed applications (project DOE maybe?).
-
-
- I don't believe I'd get most of this stuff if Sun split their resources
- on os's. An some almost require SVR4.
-
- So, instead of complaining about what the underlying technology is,
- complain about what FEATURE or FUNCTION you NEED so we can work on/with
- Sun to get it.
-
- E. Mike Durbin
- Systems Development Corp. Open Business Systems, Inc.
- emike@sdc.com emike@obs.com
-