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- From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
- Subject: Re: experienced NeXTSTEP programmer shortage
- Message-ID: <1992Dec16.173453.11404@pages.com>
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- Organization: Banzai Research Institute
- References: <1992Dec15.195018.5227@afs.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:34:53 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec15.195018.5227@afs.com> greg@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
- writes:
- > In article <Bz6wo3.Jz6@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David
- > Lemson) writes:
- > >
- > > You wouldn't believe how many headhunters call me in search of
- > > NeXTSTEP programmers.
- >
- > Well, the joke's on them and anyone else who thinks experience is a
- > pre-requisite for all employees hired. AFS has 9 programmers now, only two
- > of whom (recent arrivals) had ANY NeXT experience at all. Dave and I
- > taught ourselves NeXTSTEP programming in less than three months (and I had
- > only programmed in ... BASIC ... before), although I'll admit it takes
- > almost a year to get really fluent at it. Since then, we have taught
- > everybody else in amazingly short periods of time.
- >
- > My point is that you only need one or two people who really, really know
- > NeXTSTEP to build a programming shop, corporate-internal or third-party.
- > Everyone else just has to be reasonably smart and open-minded. As I've
- > stated innumerable times, the difficulties learning NeXTSTEP relate to
- > information volume, not concepts. The AppKit, DBKit, IndexingKit, etc.,
- > are just plain BIG, not hard. If you have even one or two person around
- > who know how to navigate them, you can keep a whole shop moving forward.
- > We do it. So can you.
- >
- > *soap box on*
- > Why won't anyone invest in training their employees anymore? Why must
- > everyone come pre-programmed for the specific job available? I'd rather
- > teach programming to smart liberal arts majors who know how to think, than
- > teach thinking to a bunch of computer linguists who only know how to code.
- > *soap box off*
- >
- > Thank you. I feel better now.
- >
-
- I'll second Greg's comments. Only about half of our engineering staff had
- NeXTSTEP programming experience before coming to work at Pages; the rest
- learned on the job (most went to DevCamp, but one didn't even bother with that
- and is doing a great job). It's critical--or, at least, extremely helpful--to
- have a few NS gurus around (for example, Bruce "the Spud" Henderson), but after
- that, it's more important to hire the right people than to seek after
- particular coding experience. Of course, if you can get a great person with the
- right coding background, all the better.... :-) ..bruce..
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- Chief Technical Officer | I'd rather parse the fish than own the knife;
- Pages Software Inc | (Imagine! Having moby bux but chained
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