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- From: mgh3@po.cwru.edu (mike hurley)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
- Subject: Re: AutoDoubler 2.0 + GK: It Just Keeps Getting Worse
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- Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:44:43 GMT
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- In article <JACKR.92Dec16093843@dblues.wpd.sgi.com>, jackr@wpd.sgi.com
- (John "Jack" Repenning) wrote:
- >
- >
- > It's like a nightmare, isn't it? It just keeps getting worse and
- > worse, doesn't it?
- >
- > Autodoubler has long carried some really snotty messages to the effect
- > that "you must remove GateKeeper before installing Auto Doubler."
- > Despite the warnings, and the gyrations needed to get around the AD
- > installer, the conflict wasn't too serious: sometimes, AD couldn't
- > compress a file, and a copy would be left in a top-level folder called
- > "AutoDoubler Rescued Items," or something like that. Once in a while,
- > I would trash that folder, but the "original" of the file was always
- > in its proper spot.
- >
- > Now that AutoDoubler 2.0 is out, with its "internal compressor" usable
- > on many files in the System Folder, I was eager to wring a bit more
- > free space out of my disk, but cautious about conflicts: I feel that
- > AutoDoubler is the second most important thing on my system, but
- > GateKeeper is number one. I will not sacrifice its protection for
- > anything, not even more space. So, I watched my several Mac news
- > groups and BBS's, waiting to see if anyone else reported problems. I
- > didn't see any such reports (maybe I missed them?), so I figured AD
- > had at long last admitted that it had to accommodate GK.
- >
- > I even checked the documents that come with the program, using a
- > friend's copy. The AD 2.0 "Configuring Virus Checkers" document says
- > you need GK version 1.2.6 ("or later," though 1.2.6 is presently the
- > latest). OK, I have 1.2.6. It also says you need to grant Copy
- > Doubler (a part of AD 2.0) certain permissions, "the same as
- > AutoDoubler," a kind of back-handed way of claiming that these
- > permissions will make things work.
- >
- > The Impossible Dream!
- >
- > The snotty installation message is still there. But circumventing it
- > is now a Very Bad Idea, because loads of other snotty things are also
- > "new and improved" with this version. In fact, AD2.0 causes
- > (seemingly) every control panel in my CP folder to futz its resources
- > in ways GK does not like. I'm unwilling to grant permissions like
- > this to every CP. Even though I trust AD's use of these calls, they
- > are indeed "very suspicious activities" (of the very first water) that
- > would be just the sort of thing a virus writer would use, and it
- > doesn't appear to me that AD has given GK 1.2.6 enough information to
- > discern the legitimate calls from the illegitimate.
- >
- >
-
- lots deleted
-
- I contacted Salient/FGS on America Online a while back and received
- the following information:
-
- -AutoDoubler does not automatically use internal compression
- -(the AutoDoubler Internal Compressor is a separate app which
- -comes with AD 2.0). However, the AutoDoubler control panel is
- -itself internally compressed, which triggers Gatekeeper's alert.
- -It is possible to expand the AD control panel using ResEdit.
- -
- -
- -While AD is installed (you can make a backup copy, but in order
- -for the expansion to work you have to work on the copy which is
- -currently running), open the control panel in ResEdit and cmd-A
- -to select all. Cut all and Paste. Select the DKHtm resource type
- -and delete it. Save your changes and you will have a version of
- -he AD control panel which is not internally compressed.
-
- which has worked for me (I performed the same ResEdit-ing on
- CopyDoubler and DiskDoubler 3.7.7 as well). GateKeeper is now
- happy. I haven't tried the AD Internal Compressor App. as yet.
-
- I agree with the above posting that FGS's attitude with regards
- to GK is ridiculous; their suggestion that one use some other
- virus utility instead of GK completely misses the point that
- GK functions differently than virus hunters by monitoring for
- suspicious/dangerous activities rather than for already-known
- viruses.
-
-
- mike hurley mgh3@po.cwru.edu
- dept of mathematics
- case western reserve univ. 44106-7058
-