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- From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
- Subject: Installation gripes (again)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec18.150239.12889@waikato.ac.nz>
- Date: 18 Dec 92 15:02:39 +1300
- Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand
- Lines: 52
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- Is there such a thing as a GOOD installer? I know I've griped about this sort
- of thing before, but I think it's time for another round...
-
- I just installed FileMaker Pro 2.0 on my machine. It's a wonderful program,
- popular among lots of my colleagues. But they *have* to use Apple's Installer
- to install the thing.
-
- The last time I complained about this, it was with MacDraw Pro 1.0. FileMaker's
- a little better: at least I don't have to restart my machine after installing.
- But it still insists on quitting all currently running applications before
- doing the install. And of course you don't get the choice of where to put it.
-
- I think Microsoft are also starting to use Apple's Installer; I recall
- encountering it when installing Word 5. To their credit, they managed to
- add a hack to the installation script to give you a choice of where to put
- the application.
-
- The other wonderful product that sticks in my mind is the Aldus installer.
- This one presents you with a wonderful array of options, and generates an
- installation log, and everything. Where it falls down is that it's unforgiveably
- modal: I remember trying to install PageMaker 4.2 on a SyQuest cartridge,
- and it was only *after* I'd chosen all the bits I wanted to install, and
- entered the serial number and registration information, that it discovered
- that it didn't have enough room to do the install, and I had to repeat the
- *entire* procedure from the top after freeing up some room. *$%#$%!!!
-
- Finally, a word on putting things in the System Folder: a *lot* of applications
- are fond of doing this now. I can think of only two things that applications
- (as opposed to INITs and the like) could legitimately put anywhere in the
- System Folder: preferences files (to keep them from getting zapped when you
- replace the application with a newer version), and read-only data or code
- which is to be *shared* among more than one application.
-
- In the latter category come things like the Claris Help System, XTND
- filters and the like. Actually even with these, I would prefer a choice
- of installing them either in the System Folder, or together with the
- application: the latter makes uninstallation easier, particularly if you only
- use one Claris application.
-
- Windows users are suffering from a lot of this: trying to track down and delete
- all the files which an application has put on a hard disk, and guessing at
- which WIN.INI entries can safely be removed without stuffing the entire system.
- I guess we have it slightly easier: with one notable exception (Word 5!),
- we don't have to worry about modifications to system files: we only have to
- track down leftover files and trash them. But that's not a good reason for
- having to put up with it!
-
- Lawrence D'Oliveiro fone: +64-7-856-2889
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- University of Waikato electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
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