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- From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
- Subject: Re: GNU copyleft (was: Summary: I'm faint!)
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- Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:35:35 GMT
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- In article <BzHqzF.D7w@acsu.buffalo.edu>, okeefe@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Paul
- O'Keefe) wrote:
- >
- >
- > In article <keithley-181292171536@kip2-37.apple.com>, keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley) writes:
- > >
- > > Unfortunately the GNU "copyleft" for GCC (and their varients of lex &
- > > yacc), prevent me from using those tools for commercial work.
- >
- > The GNU copyleft is much discussed and I don't wish to revive the debate here,
- > but the above might lead some to believe that the commercial use of
- > copylefted software will undermind thier property rights.
- >
- > Several companies have include GNU stuff which thier products
- > and I'm not aware that any have suffered as a result.
- >
- > So, I suspect that it's Apple's conservative legal policy and not the copyleft
- > that prevents Craig from using GCC.
-
- Gee, it's been agest since I was last involved with GNU battles,
- and frankly speaking I enjoyed staying out from all that legal crap. So
- this is maybe the last comment ever I will have about GNU. Originally
- the GNU manifesto had some strict rules stating that anything produced
- with GNU tools should be shipped with full sources and copyleft. Due to
- pressure from the working programmer community field this manifesto was
- changed, and nowadays it should not be a legal problem to produce binaries
- and not ship the sources. There's something still going on concerning the
- libc++ libraries, but someone else might comment on that.
-
- Anyway, nothing hinders the FSF people to suddenly revise their rules, so
- I guess that's why legal people in various software companies warns
- for use of GNU tools due to possible sudden future problems. This is the
- scary part FSF and legal issues, in my humble opinion. Or in other words,
- as Nietzsche said: "Moral judgement and condemnation is the favorite form
- of revenge for the spiritually limited on those who are less so....".
-
- or, "Battle not with monsters, lest you become a monster."
-
- I agreee, Nietzsche was a racist :-). And the last cite applies to him
- as well.
-
- Cheers,
- Kent
- PS: Have fun during the holidays breaks!
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