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- From: daley@gemini.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Daley)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Subject: Performa 600 vs. IIvx
- Summary: Performa 600 is a great deal
- Keywords: Performa,600,600CD,IIvx,CD-ROM,300i
- Message-ID: <7205@gemini.cs.nps.navy.mil>
- Date: 17 Dec 92 04:26:48 GMT
- Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Organization: Computer Science Dept, Naval Postgraduate School
- Lines: 116
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- From a look at recent traffic, there appears to be a number
- of folks who are trying to decide, as I recently did, whether
- a Performa 600/600CD, a IIci, or a IIvx/IIvx w/CD is the best
- computer for the money. Ostensibly, a lot of these people are
- buying a computer for home and/or family use.
-
- After a lot of research and agonizing over the variables involved,
- I finally bought a Performa 600CD. I've had an opportunity to evaluate
- its performance vis-a-vis the Iici, which I previously owned. The
- IIci was configured with a cache card AND a 24-bit video card
- installed, had 8 MB of RAM and a 105 internal Quantum hard drive.
-
- I disagree a recent opinion expressed that the Performa 600 series
- is aimed at the same market as the IIci (although I'd have to admit
- that I could be used as an example to contradict this argument! ;-)
- The Performa 600 series is aimed squarely at the home/education
- and multimedia market, whereas the IIci was primarily a DTP/high
- performance machine.
-
- In any case, the performance I've experienced with the P600CD so
- far has been very, very comparable to that of the IIci. Video is
- a bit slower (as compared against the video card in the IIci), but
- that's certainly expected. Even without a math chip installed, most
- software runs about like it did on the IIci. (Real world vs. lab
- measurements effect here, I think.)
-
- As far as the comparison with the IIvx, the case is clear: if you're
- out for value, the P600 series has it all over the IIvx:
-
- Advantage is signified by "*"
-
- Factor P600/600CD IIvx/IIvx w/CD
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- Processor 32 MHz 68030 <-- same --> 32 MHz 68030
- Data bus 16 MHz (sigh) <-- same --> 16 MHz (sigh)
- Accelerator slot available <-- same --> available
-
- Base HD config 160 MB * 80 MB
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- (Note: Performa 600CD 5/160/CD is $2499 list; IIvx 5/80/CD is locally
- about $2660 street. Most P600's are selling at list, due to
- demand outstripping supply.)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- Extended Keybd II included * extra (~ $149)
-
- Integrated SW included * extra
-
- PC Exchange included * extra
-
- At Ease included * extra
-
- System SW System 7.1P * System 7.1
- ^
- |-- IMHO
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- System 7.1P includes some useful utilities, such as Launcher and
- Apple Backup. The only disadvantage is that Apple, for some unknown
- reason, doesn't include the 7.1 floppy disks with the package. Go
- figure!
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Math chip slot ready 32 MHz 68882 in *
-
- Cache No capability 32K installed *
-
- Onboard video 16-bit to 14" monitors 16-bit to 16" mons *
-
- :::::::::::::::::::::::
- So: the bottom line:
- :::::::::::::::::::::::
-
- If you don't care about maximizing your value per dollar (including
- getting a larger hard drive for less money), or if you absolutely
- must have either an onboard cache or onboard video support for 16"
- monitors, go with the IIvx. It's a fine machine, and slightly out-
- performs the IIci (according to most lab tests).
-
- If you place value on any of the following:
-
- 1) a larger hard drive (160MB vs 80 MB)
- 2) integrated software
- 3) PC Exchange/DOS mounting software
- 4) At Ease (environment for kids or beginners, which is great)
- 5) paying less money than the IIvx and STILL getting the above,
- including a $149 keyboard
-
- ...then the Performa is a better choice.
-
- At least one manufacturer (I think it was Technology Works) has
- the 32MHz 68882 for the Performa 600 series in stock. Price is
- about $149. (for those who need the extra performance for math-
- intensive applications).
-
- IMHO, it would be fairly difficult to notice the performance
- difference between the Performa 600, the IIci, and the IIvx, if
- you are using human sensors (not speedometer, a stopwatch, etc.)
- unless you are using math-intensive applications. Once installing
- the 68882 in the P600, I think all 3 machines will be within a
- 5% range of each other. (Prevailing theory is that it takes a
- 10% performance difference to be detectable by most humans.)
-
- BTW, the CD 300i and PhotoCD are FANTASTIC. The included Compton's
- Multimedia Encyclopedia, as well as the other CD discs included,
- are great. QuickTime 1.5 looks great on the built-in 16-bit video.
-
- Hope you find this useful!
-
- Disclaimer: the above is my opinion, and does not necessarily
- agree, or disagree, with anyone else's.
-
- John
-
- --
-
- John A. Daley, LCDR, USN Computer Science Instructor, NPS Monterey
- Internet: daley@cs.nps.navy.mil America OnLine: JDaley
-