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- From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Subject: Re: 16MHz bus really slow?
- Message-ID: <Uf_L5ye00Vp=AUNw5t@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Date: 11 Dec 92 18:58:38 GMT
- Article-I.D.: andrew.Uf_L5ye00Vp=AUNw5t
- References: <BITTING-DOUGLAS.92Dec10131901@lion.CS.Yale.Edu>
- Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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- In-Reply-To: <BITTING-DOUGLAS.92Dec10131901@lion.CS.Yale.Edu>
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- bitting-douglas@CS.Yale.Edu (Intensely Confucious) writes:
- > I have seen people banter about a lot about how much the 16 MHz bus on
- > the IIvx must really slow down the computer since it isn't leaps and
- > bounds faster than the IIci. However, there has been very little
- > "technical" support for these statements. I'm not saying they aren't
- > true, but I would be really curious as to just how much the 16 MHz bus
- > can slow down the machine.
-
- The 2vx has its cpu, fpu, and cache running at 32mhz, and everything
- else running at 16mhz. Presumably those three units are connected to
- each other so that they communicate at full speed, or it would be a
- huge speed hose every time you sin() or ask for anything out of
- memory. But any time you go off that 32mhz section, the entire unit
- has to slow down to 16mhz, and starts throwing wait states. Every
- time you get something out of main memory. Every time you send a
- pixel to video (I *want* a graphics accelarator that just takes
- standard quickdraw calls and pipes them through its own internal
- hardware quickdraw processor... Is there one out there?) Every time
- you do anything of that sort...
-
- This means that if you're doing a lot of memory work (such as running
- a pict through a filter, quicktime movies, etc.) the 2vx is going to
- slow down a lot. The 2vx is faster at things like floating point
- calls (is it true that Apple dropped the SANE traps for sys7.1? - can
- anyone confirm/deny?) and large amounts of work on small amounts of
- data (lots of cpu/fpu calls on memory that is in the cache).
-
- Supposedly the 2ci will be as fast or faster than the 2vx for
- just about everything if you add in a video card instead of using
- internal memory because the 2ci is slowed down immensely by the
- conflicts on bank A.
-
-
- --faisal jawdat | "Certainly the game is rigged.
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