NetNews Usenet Archive 1992 #30/NN_1992_30.iso/spool/comp/sys/mac/apps/18739

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From: [e-mail] (Masatsugu Nagata)
Subject: Re: The New Nisus QUED/M 2.5
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:54:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
>    A couple of initial comments on the new Nisus QUED/M 2.5, which
> just came out:
>
I've upgraded to 2.5, too, and is very glad I did.

> * You're supposed to be able to assign command keys to menu items with
> the Assign Menu Key command, and conflicts with existing key
> assignments are supposed to be flagged.  I tried to assign "command-T"
> to "Tile Windows".  It works; but the conflict with the initial
> default command-T for Transfer was not flagged; command-T doesn't
> disappear from the Transfer item in the Edit menu; and attempts to
> remove it were unsuccessful...?
>
I just tried it and it does work.  (System 7.0)
Select 'Assign Menu Keys' menu, and when the dialog box appears, select
the 'Transfer' item in the File menu.  Then the 'Menu Item' field says
"Transfer" and the character "T" appears in another field and is
highlighted.   I just pressed the 'Remove' button, and then the "Done"
button, and look, the command-T assignment is gone.  Nothing to the right
to the 'Transfer' item, written in the File menu.

Perhaps you'd have to "Remove cmd-T from Transfer"
_BEFORE_ "Adding cmd-T to TileWindows" ??


> * The "Transfer" menu, which was one of the attractive features of
> QUED/M 2.09, with the ability to set up a specific set of transfer
> menu items which will open up another appplication with the current
> active file open in that application, appears to be completely gone.
>
I'm very glad they removed the old "Transfer" menu, since that was the
source of the infamous _LaunchApplication crash in v.2.09.

Now, QUED/M's new 'Execute ToolServer Script' menu is supposed to do
something ultimately replace the old "configurable Transfer menu".

By sending AppleEvents to other apps, QUED/M can not only switch to other
apps, but also tell them to do specific tasks, and you can configure
everything from Macro.

I'm not sure how I can do this in QUED/M now;  its manual only says it
"sends scripts in MPW ToolServer language" or some such (I don't have
MPW), but I'm sure it can.   (Please, someone, post this info.)

> For someone who wants to edit say a TeX source file in QUED/M, then
> quickly transfer into Textures with that file open (or a similar
> feature for any other programming language), this is a big loss, and
> the Transfer capability in the new 2.5 much less useful.
>
> Is there a way to do this via a macro?
>
Now, another trouble is that current version of Textures does not yet
support AppleEvents  (maybe in the next version?)

So, you'd have to use some external AppleEvent Server, including MPW
ToolServer, Frontier, and HyperCard.

I currently use the text editor Alpha 5.2 to send AE to HyperCard to
let it launch Textures.   I'm sure QUED/M can do the same.

A sample  Macro in Alpha 5.2:
When I type control-X-shift-Y, then first HyperCard is launched, which
launches Textures, and Alpha 5.2's 'Shell Window' remains in the
foreground, showing a template for telling Textures which file to open.
I just type the filename, and then use another macro to 'switchTo'
Textures.

#===========================================================================
# Send events to the Finder via Jon Pugh's 'FinderEvents' stack.
# Requires (info-mac/card/x/finder-events-12.hqx; 41K)
# This can launch documents of non-AE-aware applications.
#===========================================================================

proc hyperTexOpen {} {
    launch {HD2:HyperC-E:HyperCard}
    dosc  -c 'WILD' -s {go to FinderEvents} -t 2000
    dosc  -c 'WILD' -s {go to card 13} -t 2000
    shell
    insertText "dosc\ -c\ 'WILD'\ -s\ \{FinderEvents\ Open,\ \
\"HardDisk:TEX:AMS-TEX:\",\ \"AMSTeX format\"\}\ -t\ 2000"
    tclCarriageReturn
    insertText "dosc\ -c\ 'WILD'\ -s\ \{FinderEvents\ Open,\ \
\"HD2:works:\",\ \"Brown.tex\"\}\ -t\ 2000"
    selDir
}
bind 'y' <X> hyperOpen
bind 'y' <sX> hyperTexOpen

proc selDir {} {
    set pos [getPos]
    saveVars
    setVar regExpr 0
    setVar forward 0
    set pos1 [lindex  [search {:} $pos] 0]
    setVar forward 0
    set pos2 [lindex [search {:} [expr $pos1-1]] 1]
    eval select $pos2 $pos1
    restoreVars
}


OK.  Now, all the above assumes you use System 7.   If you use System 6
(or, even if you use System 7), there's a very good alternative: Jeremy
Roussak's 'Apollo 1.0' INIT.  (info-mac/ex/apollo-10.hqx)

This is an INIT that provides you a configurable launch menu, so it also
completely supercedes QUED/M 2.09's 'Transfer' menu.  Apollo is very easy
to use, and provides you lots of other features, too, than just launching
apps/docs.

Hope this helps.

Mark
--
Mark Nagata
[e-mail]

P.S.  I agree with you that Nisus Software should provide more complete
and more readable manuals!