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- From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
- Subject: Internal 14.4K Modems
- Message-ID: <724530981snx@n5ial.mythical.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:36:21 GMT
- References: <28560@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
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- In article <28560@oasys.dt.navy.mil> lewis@oasys.dt.navy.mil writes:
- > In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, mitch@nosc.mil (Ray Mitchell) writes:
-
- >> I'm in the process of buying a 14.4K internal modem and need some
- >> guidance.
-
- > I bought a Zoom 14.4k external, from Price Club at $239, that was the
- > ^^^^^EAST COAST, WASH. D.C.
- > best price I've found. I like the external alot better than my old internal
- > 2400 because it's a LOT easier to take it to another machine if I had
- > to. Which I have done once so far, though I never thought I would ever
- > have to. The externals also have the added feature of the indicator
- > lights on the front, which is good for trouble shooting.
-
- I sent this bit via e-mail, but since I'm hitting some points in another
- followup, I'll mention this again.... do not buy an internal modem.
- buy an external modem. there are lots and lots of reasons behind this,
- many of which are stated in the above followup.
-
- now for the real reason for this post....
-
- > One thing about 14.4 connections though, they are not guaranteed.
- > I've found that I've had little success in obtaining a reliable 14.4k
- > connection (My phone line is situated in a very noisey electrical
- > environment which makes anything above 9600 difficult)
-
- your case is apparently rather severe --- from what I've seen, as long
- as you stay out of hotel rooms, and you don't have an insanely long/bad
- local loop, you can generally expect good, solid performance from
- V.32bis at 14.4 kb. (most comp.dcom.modems readers should know this
- anyways, but for those who don't... hotel rooms generally have about
- the worst phone service anywhere in the country...except for a few
- existing step switches.)
-
- there's another possibility, too.... I haven't been reading all of the
- posts on Zoom, Supra, etc., that flood this group these days, but I
- seem to recall seeing several posts on other topics (e.g., which modem
- should I buy, etc.) saying that the Zoom modems (trying to put this
- nicely) had lots of problems and were basically crap. I could be wrong
- about this, so don't quote me here..... there are several active
- threads on this here, so you should be able to find more in those posts.
-
- > This brings up a question to all of the hardware heads out there....
- >
- > I've looked at my I/O card and don't see chip with the markings
- > "16450" which is the chip I have according to PCTOOLS diagnostics
- > Nor have, I seen anything that says "UART" on it.
-
- well obviously, the chip isn't likely to have UART stamped all over it.
- that's what the part number is for. :-)
-
- have you looked for things like 8250, 8250A, etc.? the 8250A is, if
- memory serves, functionally equivalent to the 16450. I could normally
- verify this from the data sheets, but since I'm still in the process of
- unpacking after my move, my NS data sheets are in a box in a storage
- locker.... anyone else have their data sheets handy?
-
- there is also, of course, the possibility that you've got a non-standard
- UART (perhaps something like a multi-function chip) that just happens to
- emulate a 16450. these are often complete trash (no surprise there for
- most folks here), so be careful.
-
- there is also a version of most NS UARTS (again, sorry but I don't have
- the data sheets handy at the moment) that has 2 UARTS on it, and these
- obviously have a different part number.
-
- > Now the question...
- >
- > Would upgrading the UART (either by board or by chip), improve the
- > chance of obtaining 14.4k connections? (upgrade 16450 to a 16550)
-
- not at all. remember, the UART deals with communications between the
- local modem and the computer. the UART has no control over the phone
- line, the quality of the modem-to-modem connection, etc.... now, if
- you're having trouble with your computer not being able to keep up with
- incoming data from the modem, that's another story.
-
- questions? feel free to e-mail me or post here. I may not read other
- groups too carefully, but comp.dcom.modems, comp.dcom.telecom, and
- comp.text.tex are at the top of the list as far as reading news goes....
- --jim
-
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