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- From: wggray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Wild Bill)
- Subject: Re: Wolfenstein and Spear of Destiny with heroic neofascism
- Message-ID: <1992Dec16.121615.16085@newstand.syr.edu>
- Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
- References: <1992Dec14.175541.7224@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:16:14 EST
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- In article <1992Dec14.175541.7224@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Hermann.Goehler@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Hermann Goehler) writes:
- >Dear Adventurer,
- >
- > do you always think about humanism an moral?
- > The question - which game is better "Ultima Underworld" or
- > "Wolfenstein & the spirit ... of trash" - is simple to
- > answer.
- > "Wolfenstein .." is a stupid game with a stupid idea an
- > trashing fun.
- > The really question is "Shows this game heroic fascism ?".
- >
- > I mean it should be verbosen.
- >
- > I have pruned it from my harddisc. You should really play
- > funny adventures like Kings Quest VI from Sierra and not
- > so silly games.
- >
- >
- > Think about it.
- >
- >
- > Against heroic fascism !!!
-
- Well, I have to reply to this, even though you may no like
- my answer. First, word of explanation. A couple of days ago
- I got into an argument with one Hans Ulrich from Germany,
- and things got nasty and bad things were said, and I wish
- I could have saved his E-mail address to offer an apology,
- but I erased it before I had time to think. -Anyway, about
- the game. Many people find the game appealing, for some
- greatly varied reasons: Those of us who don't find
- excessive violence appealing in real life, can use this
- game to blow off steam, and dangerous (but human) inclinations
- toward violence are satisfied without anyone getting hurt.
- I realize that anyone of a German background may not
- particularly like the idea behind this game--this is
- understandable, but seeing as the majority (the great
- majority) of Germans today are not Nazis. they shouldn't
- take offense, at least, we don't mean any when we play the game.
- There are neo-Nazis right here in the U.S.A., whose ideas
- I greatly despise, and I get out my frustrations, in one
- way, by playing the game, so as not to do something stupid
- in real life. Don't get me wrong, I probably wouldn't do
- anything stupid for real, but it just lets me let off
- steam in a (convenient) way when they get me down. This
- current problem of neo-Nazis in Germany (or anywhere else)
- shouldn't be dealt with violence, but with understanding
- of the position these people are in socially and
- economically, and they should be councelled and treated
- accordingly, with little or no violence in the process.
- Hopefully, most of us playing the game realize that the
- Nazis were not monsters, but disillusioned and deceived
- -people-. America is guilt of crimes just as heinous
- as the gassing of millions of Jews, like the killing of
- hundreds of millions(this figure is correct) of Africans
- who were kidnapped from Africa, most of which died on the
- way over to America, and then the cruelty and mistreatment
- in America that I'll bet the Nazis took ideas from.
- --I hope this clears up some of the enigmas around playing
- the games, and keeps people from throwing stones in glass
- houses (sorry about the argument Hans).
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