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- From: jay@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (Jay A. Davis)
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- Subject: Re: Falcon 3.01.1 High Fidelity Flight Model bug (?)
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- Date: 15 Dec 92 14:22:23 GMT
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- I
- |>>Wait! If it runs out of fuel, how can it still have power? And if it would
- |>>stall and drop like a rock *with power*, how does it fly under normal
- |>>circumstances, expecially if it does not have enough wing area to
- |>>counteract its weight?
- |>
- |>Actually, the F-16 is a really clean design, and the wing area isn't
- |>all that bad (esp comapared to an F5 or T-38). Granted, you wouldn't
- |>see it approach the glide of a sailplane, but it wouldn't fall out of
- |>the sky either. Watch the next shuttle landing for a lesson in the
- |>art of gliding.
- |>
- |>Too many news reports, movies, etc, paint the picture that an engine
- |>stalling equates to the plane falling out of the sky! This is terribly
- |>inaccurate; they stall because the pilot failed to keep the plane 'flying'.
- |>I've flown several planes without any source of power other than gravity.
- |>
- |>I've found Falcon 3.01.1's simulation of flame-out (complex model) to be
- |>very reasonable. I fly it just like a sailplane: adjust pitch to control
- |>airspeed (keep airspeed above well above stall), as you approach the
- |>ground (hopefully an airport or road), flare to reduce vertical drop noting
- |>as you do so you're airspeed will slow as well. Sure, it comes down fast,
- |>but not uncontrollably or unsurvivabley so.
- |>
- |>>
- |>>You mean to tell me that a best-seller like the F-16 can't glide? Who
- |>>would make/fly/buy a plane like that?
- |>>
- |>> .... hey, i just asking ....
- |>>-LongJohn
- I have a thru-the-hud video of an F-16 after a flame out with FULL ferry tanks a couple of minutes
- after takeoff from 8000 ft. Return to base after 2 count 'em 100+ degree banks to line up.
- And land!!!! Yes, VERY large ahhh shall we say cahones (sp?). He even got it to the ramp.....
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