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- From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:46:47 GMT
- Subject: Re: When will HP supply PATCHES before they are Required?
- Message-ID: <28510397@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
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- Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
- References: <721721627snx@johnwuu.canb.auug.org.au>
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- njconway@ccvax.ucd.ie (Neil Conway) writes:
-
- > It's great that it's going to change :) Seriously though, on an economic
- > point, what about litigation ?
- >
- > For example, a person buys a WStn in good faith, uses it for some months, then
- > has a disk crash. They go to their backup tapes only to discover that some
- > critical (obviously :) files have been corrupted by the backup program and are
- > unrecoverable.
- >
- > This person then discovers that a patch has been available for months to
- > correct a known problem with the backup program in question...
- >
- > They have a software support contract with their vendor.
- >
- > What more could they have done ? Don't they have a legitimate right to expect
- > to have been notified about the problem, and offered the patch ? (We are
- > talking about critical problems here... I consider corrupt backups pretty
- > serious.)
- >
- > If I were that person I would feel inclined to sue the vendor...
- >
- > Even if our person had NO contract, wouldn't he be entitled to a patch for the
- > broken backup system that he purchased ?
- >
- >
- > A situation like this exists with HP - we discovered a patch to fbackup (among
- > other ones to ftio etc.) which caused problems with backups under some
- > circumstances. Luckily, we didn't have to go to our old backup tapes at any
- > stage, so we didn't get bitten. However, the problem *had* been occurring on
- > our backups. (I forget the precise symptoms).
-
- Do you actually have any information of a specific case where the
- *data* on the backup tape was corrupt and where that corruption was
- caused by the HP backup program? I know that there were some cases were
- a backup tape could not be restored by the stock restore program, but
- those were *not* *data* corruption cases. The data on the tapes was
- fine, you "just" could not get it off the tape without a patch.
-
- No offense, but "A situation like this exists with HP" followed by "I
- forget the precise symptoms", is a little too thin for me and not fair
- against HP (to put it mildly).
-
- As I have mentioned before several times in this forum: HP takes
- silent data corruption very seriously and in each case, that I know of,
- we have informed our total customer base as soon as possible. See for
- eaxmple my first response of November 30 in the string "HP sever
- crashing" [sic] in this newsgroup.
-
- Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
-