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- From: justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
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- Subject: Re: When will HP supply PATCHES before they are Required?
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- Date: 15 Dec 92 21:24:38 GMT
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- In <17780300@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> perry@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes:
-
- >>It's great that it's going to change :) Seriously though, on an economic
- >>point, what about litigation ?
-
- >You are asking a software guy a legal question. I am not qualified to
- >answer. I think HP covers its legal and moral obligations in these
- >matters.
-
- >The lawyers would make a lot of money and I don't think it would solve
- >the technical problem.
-
- That's a good point, although my mother thought it was very funny..
- As an attorney, she could tell you that warranties and service contracts
- carry this wonderful little strings that consumers can pull. Warranties
- and service contracts (which are typically treated as warranties) carry
- many implications.. Particularly under a service contract, an HP attorney
- couldn't tell me that my operating system was sold "as-is," because that's
- what the software agreement takes care of. Therefore, HP would be required
- to fix the problem (in my case, with the frecover bug, they did) or
- reimburse me as a result of their error (the ones they're not supposed to make)
-
- If someone WERE to litigate, it COULD result in a federal judge deciding that
- HP needed to make whatever changes were necessary to avoid future problems.
- It's not our (the consumers') fault that you have a bazillion patches and
- five million centers that make it impossible to pull everything together
- and get it out to your customers (who pay good money for this kind of stuff).
-
- It's not just the technical aspect, either.. Sales took eight months to get
- their act straight with the expensive service contract we bought.. I couldn't
- get the on-site service we paid for because someone kept neglecting to make
- sure everything was done right on the paperwork. Since I didn't get what I
- paid for, I'm going to demand that HP give me one year of service from the
- date they finally issued a proper contract (last week). If they refuse,
- we could litigate. :)
-
- Other then the ocassional BS like that, I think HP is a terrific company.
- It would be #1 (and wouldn't have suffered the incredible loss in profit
- they just reported) if they could get their act together..
-
- Do you know how ANNOYING it is not to be able to call the support number
- with 5 questions and having to wait to get 5 calls back from god knows
- how many response centers!?
-