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- From: shrier@aramis.rutgers.edu (Shrier)
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- Subject: HP calculator questions
- Keywords: Solve, Integrate, HP34C
- Message-ID: <Dec.18.00.26.45.1992.16613@aramis.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 18 Dec 92 05:26:46 GMT
- Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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- Back in 1980, I purchased an HP34C calculator, which has to be
- considered a beautiful feat of design. Code density was very high; it was
- amazing what one could do with a quarter K of RAM! The looping, addressing,
- and other programming features struck me as more clever than earlier HP
- calculators. The accuracy control mechanism for integration seemed very neat
- too.
-
- Anyway, I have several questions for the Net:
-
- 1) My calculator failed the self-test and eventually stopped responding
- altogether. HP no longer services the machine, but offered a trade-in deal
- instead. Well, I miss watching the red flying commas in a dark room when
- doing definite integrals. Can anyone offer hope?
-
- 2) I never did get around to using the R/S button to investigate the algorithms
- behind SOLVE and INTEGRATE. The Solver uses two or three previous values,
- so the method must be somewhat more elaborate than the secant method. What
- is the algorithm, and how are initial guesses chosen, if the user doesn't
- supply the pair?
-
- Much more interesting, how does integration work? The manual is well
- written, but hides the details. It seems that the number of sample points
- is doubled for each iteration, and the last three iterations are compared
- to assess convergence. OK, but how are the points and weights chosen?
-
- 3) The speed of the 34C seemed to be around 10 IPS, slower for trig and y**x.
- The 67 did about 20 IPS, and the 65 more like 50 IPS. I believe the same
- processor was used in all cases. Could anyone discuss the nature of the
- underlying CPU, clock rate, and speed (relative to say, an 8080 or 6502 etc.)
- for the calculators from the HP65 to the present day?
-
- Thanks in advance!
-
- George Shrier
-