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- From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
- Subject: Re: Piracy of software
- Date: 13 Dec 1992 15:30:32 +0100
- Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
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- In <1992Dec13.024009.15597@csi.uottawa.ca> cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
-
- >In article <1ge4eqINNp10@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de writes:
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- >You're describing only one area of software; namely the MASS MARKET.
- >I suspect that the majority of software development actually takes
- >place at other levels, in the form of "custom software."
- >Customization (whether it's particularly creative or not) does cost a
- >lot, and does NOT result in an "infinite" number of useful copies.
- >For a specialized report, there might actually only be ONE user.
-
- Yes, my bitching really does target mainly the mass market, where
- thousands of absolutely identical copies of a piece of software
- can be sold without any customization whatsoever. I'd never dare
- to judge how creative some kind of work is, but I do question
- that it is right and viable to charge for copying as though it
- was programming.
- If someone does some customization for ONE user and that user
- pays him for the effort the programmer made, e.g. $1000 for a
- week or so, that's perfectly ok. But now, if that very same
- programmer gets a similar job from another customer, and he digs
- out the stuff from the first job, does some changes to it in,
- say, half a day, is it jutified that this programmer charges the
- second customer $1000, as though the second job had taken him a
- week to do like the first one? I say no.
- Don't tell me such things don't happen. I once talked to a guy
- who was working for a company that did software customizations
- for commercial customers, i.e. big enterprises. I asked if they
- charged for stuff they just took from work that was already done
- and paid for by another customer as though they had to write it
- up from scratch. His answer was "Of course we do <GRIN>!"
-
- Now, if charging twice for work one did once is not ok, how can
- charging thousands of time for work that has been done once be?
- This is exactly what happens when commercially marketing
- copyrighted software on the mass market. The fact that the price
- for a single legal copy doesn't cover the production cost doesn't
- change the fundamental problem: If the price per package is, say
- 0.1% of the total production cost of 1000 packages, then it is,
- by extension of the line of reasoning described above, ok if the
- software marketer sells 1000 packages for the said price. I'd not
- be bothered if he sold some more for the benefit of his
- shareholders, but if he sells 3000 packages, he has cheated each
- of his customers at least as badly as the programmer who charges
- a customer for work that he did during time he was paid for by
- another customer.
- Viewed from this aspect, I don't condemn piracy one-sidedly,
- because it will reduce the "pirate cheat ratio", i.e. the ratio
- of illegal copies to legal ones, but it will, at the same time,
- increase the "software charge cheat ratio", i.e. the number of
- times charged on the average for work done once.
-
- >>I think that is a fundamental problem in the
- >>concept of marketing copyrights. Software companies rip off both
- >>programmers and users these days.
-
- >>Maybe all that is needed to resolve this problem is a law saying
- >>that after the copyright on a program expires after one year and
- >>is automatically converted to a copyleft.
-
- >"There ought to be a law!" The most common, and the most STUPID
- >statement that people typically make.
-
- Don't get me wrong here. I'd like to do with as few laws as
- possible, and I'm not calling for any. This suggestion was only
- meant as an example how one could change legislation in a more
- sensible way than implementing totalitarian measures for
- enforcing copyrights.
-
- Greetinx, Jan
-
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