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- From: rossi@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Oliver Rosenkranz)
- Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.8bit.archive
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- Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:38:19 GMT
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- Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:
-
- >I have to agree with Michael Current, somebody did a poll a while ago
- >to start a news grous for Atari 8 bit binaries, and the results seemed to
- >indicate that there aren't very many readers using this newsgroup.
- >But there does seem to be indications that people on Compuserve and GEnie
- >who don't have diret Internet access are receiving and reading the
- >Digests, which is a good thing.
- >
- >I'd like to suggest that rather than lobby for a new newsgroup, you consider
- >backing one or both of the following ideas:
- >
- >a. do like Michael says, post the articles here, and have them stored in
- > a programming/tutorial directory at Atari.archive.umich.edu.
- I didn't say that posting it here is a bad idea but think of all the guys
- NOT writing (pure readers) or reading this newsgroup once a week or something
- like that. I know people here in Europe reading this newsgroup but do not post
- anything because they think their ENGLISH is too bad (as mine is).
- I read comp.sys.atari.8bit regularly (nearly every day) and everytime I
- come up there are at least 10 articles posted here. Not everyone has the time
- to read everything. If you read here once a week lots of articles would be
- deleted without reading them first. An .archive newsgroup wouldn't be
- as 'overcrowded' because there wouldn't be as much articles.
- There is really no reason for not sending them to the archive site. The
- newsgroup moderator shall do exactly this to give new aspects to this site.
- But a newsgroup has several advantages :
- 1. Readers can respond and send follow-ups (published coordinated by the
- moderator).
- 2. You don't have to ftp to a site, not knowing if there is anything new
- there.
- 3. You read newsgroups more often than you ftp to the archive.
- 4. ftp site capacity is limited. This is not a good argument but it is one.
- 5. Seeing articles automatically could be more creative and motivating to
- people.
- 6. You publish it to people all over the world. The AC mag is mostly selled
- in the US (isn't it ?).
- Maybe combinating all three solutions of the problem (and there is one)
- would be the best solution at all.
-
- >Regarding program development:
- >
- >Personally, I don't think we need any more Arcade Shoot Em up games.
- >There have been several of these released in the last 3 or 4 years,
- >and Software Infinity carries quite a few imports that are quite new.
- >Frankly, I haven't heard any stories of heards of people flocking to
- >buy up these games.
- You're absolutely right...
-
-
- ...
- >my own. We don't need another word processor, unless it's something
- >really special, maybe mixing the Bells and Whistles of Paperclip with
- >the macro capability of Textpro version 5 and the 80 column output of
- >Atariwriter 80 or Turboword 80. How about a new B/Graph? One that can
- >import data from a spread sheet application, and prints graphics that
- >are better than the old Graphics 8 screen dumps. We STILL don't have any
- >kind of 2-d CAD program, or a schematic design program. For me, as an
- >engineering kinda guy, these are a must.
- Oh there are programs for that (I own at least one 2-d CAD program) but you
- Americans don't know of that because they were published in Europe.
- Guys you're not allone on this planet and everywhere are good programs
- written. And for sure, out here in Germany there are several great programmers
- for the little ATARI (think of TURBO-BASIC, never reached by anything else).
- This' no flame, but there are moments while reading this newsgroup when I
- think this is an US newsgroup (with local store infos and selling lists).
-
- Think of the new newsgroup twice, because you, Jeff, are one of the
- guys having the knowledge to write articles for it. This has nothing to
- do with AC (I can understand why you stand for it here) and please DO
- stand together as ATARI users and do whatever is the best for this 'family'.
- I think, a new newsgroup AND putting selected articles to AC and the ARCHIVE
- would be the best way to inform the readers well...
-
- --==rossi==--
-
-