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- From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Snapshotting icons, suggestions for PC disk formatting/handling
- Message-ID: <BzC9tq.35u@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
- Date: 16 Dec 92 06:25:02 GMT
- References: <Bz9rHw.8Ls@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Dec14.155025.1357@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> <71771@cup.portal.com>
- Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
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- joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:
- >DUH. :-) That's the whole point. You shouldn't need to "snapshot" an icon.
- >If you move it, the new position should be remembered automatically. I
- >never move icons without wanting them to stay there. So why force you to
- >crap.... er, I mean snapshot?
-
- The problem on the Amiga is a little different than on machines like the Mac
- and the NeXT that snap all the icons to a grid automatically. Since Amiga icons
- can be of any funky size you like, this isn't practical, and if you accidentally
- touch an icon, it might move (this happens to me enough that I wish there were a
- "return to snapshot location" option on the Workbench). OS/2 fixed this by
- using different mouse buttons for moving and launching icons. What I'd really
- love to see would be a set of display preferences that would let you alter the
- options under "View by..." so you could set different sorts of "text" listings
- as well as set grids for icons to snap to or set icons and/or windows so they
- always snap to the last size they were at. I guess you could call it
- "IconPrefs" or something. It would be nice to save defaults there for new
- disks, something which only a semi-experience Amiga user can do now by copying
- the disk icon (after snapshotting its window) to ENVARC:. [In fact, I do this
- for my Ram disk, also, and copy its icon to RAM: before loading Workbench, so
- that my Ram disk shows up where I like it and in a nice, "Show all by names"
- format. I also set my standard disk icon to do this, since I often read in
- disks without icons, such as PC disks (using MultiDOS, still the best even if
- CBM doesn't think so ;) ).]
-
- Speaking of PC disks, I don't understand why CrossDOS has to use 2 icons - under
- ADOS3, an options panel is presented when "Format disk..." is selected. CBM
- could just have a set of disk format datatypes or some other database of said
- formats, and have a listview with all of the available ones in it... ...that way
- you could pick IBM format from the listview just as you would when formatting
- an AmigaDOS disk, and it would be more integrated, transparent to the user, and
- all that good stuff that makes using a GUI worthwhile.
-
- >>As for the "rest of the icon-based" systems, I can say that I *much* prefer th
- >e
- >>Amiga's snapshotting method over the Mac's (I have a Mac sitting on my desk at
- >>work). I realize this is personal preference - my preference is that icons
- >>shouldn't snap unless I tell them to, just like file edits aren't written to
- >>disk unless I select a Save command. The Mac's method doesn't allow you to
- >>undo your new view. If you accidently clean up a window or select view-by-nam
- >e
- >>instead of icon, you're sunk since there is no Undo for this operation.
-
- >If there's a wide divergence in what people would like, perha[s a prefs
- >setting for auto-save or snapshot.
-
- >-Joel
- >-------
- > ========================================================================
- > / Joel E. Swan....Pres./...Media Specialties, Ltd., Oak Forest, IL.USA /
- > / & Senior Producer..../...Moody Broadcasting Network, Chicago, IL. USA /
- >/ Portal ID: joeles..../...joeles@cup.portal.com /
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