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- From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
- Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,news.admin.misc
- Subject: Re: 8-bit news
- Keywords: ISO8859 ISO10646 8bit
- Message-ID: <tmjsfl4@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>
- Date: 17 Dec 92 01:32:14 GMT
- References: <Bz9Bw3.2I6@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <89RsVB3w165w@blues.kk.sub.org>
- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
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- In article <89RsVB3w165w@blues.kk.sub.org>, kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:
- > ...
- > If a system is not capable of storing and forwarding 8-bit octets,
- > why is it connected to the Internet? Maybe we should simply not route
- > anything over those systems. Old hardware got to be replaced someday
- > and should it be only because of the energy it consumes... ;-)
- > ...
-
- This is a persistent cause of the continuing disagreement.
-
- Some modest corners of the Internet are "authoritarian."
- Someone or some group tells everyone what they can do.
-
- Other parts are more "democratic" or even "anarchic". No one can tell
- anyone else what to run in those corners. At most, "peer pressure" can
- be invoked against those who do not run "standards compliant" systems.
-
- For now, "standards compliant" means "7-bit." You might disagree with
- the wisdom of either of those facts (that "the net" is not run by a
- benovolent European dictator or that 7-bits is or ever was a reasonable
- standard). It is crazy (as is in "refusing to accept reality") to say
- that either is not a fact.
-
- SMTP was developed by people were not crazy, who know that some target
- machines could at the time only do 7-bit text, and only with some
- difficulty. MIME is being developed by people who are similarly
- pragmatic. MIME will move 8-bit mail through systems that are both
- old and 7-bit.
-
- It was probably either provicial or short sighted for SMTP to not have
- included some kind of encoding for 8-bit data (although the "S" does
- stand for "simple"). It is provincial today to expect the entire
- Internet to be changed to support 8-bit text; It is provincial because
- it ignores the concerns and constraints of other people.
-
-
- Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
-