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- From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov)
- Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,news.admin.misc
- Subject: Re: 8-bit news
- Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:20:45 -0500
- Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
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- References: <Bz9Bw3.2I6@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <89RsVB3w165w@blues.kk.sub.org> <CKD.92Dec15161747@loiosh.eff.org>
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- In article <CKD.92Dec15161747@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
- >The "nonsense" is assuming that "just sending 8 bits" will work in the face
- >of these software issues. There are three ways to send 8-bit email through
- >SMTP:
- >
- >1) make agreements to "just send 8 bits". Works within an enclave.
- >
- >2) extend SMTP in some way to be guaranteed 8-bit compatible.
- >
- >3) "just send it and hope it gets there okay."
- >
- >The problem is that (1) tends to generalize into (3)...where the real
- >solution is (2).
-
- Look, if you're not using anything but ASCII "just send 8 bits"
- works just fine. If you have an old software and want to get
- extended character set you can't do it anyway, right?
-
- "Just send 8 bits" is the proper superset of "just send 7 bits"
- -- exactly the same as adding new header fields. It breaks nothing
- as long as you do not use extensions.
-
- >I'm certainly not insensitive to the needs of languages that don't fit in
- >USASCII. However, I'm also not insensitive to the needs of sites that
- >could care less about 8-bit characters, have vendor-supplied software that
- >blows up on 8-bit data, and aren't prepared to upgrade immediately.
-
- If the vendor-software crashes on, say, a file with 1025-byte line
- it's a bug, isn't it? If a program craches on ANYTHING it's a bug.
- A bug is a bug is a bug. Call their tech support and have them to
- fix it.
-
- >As soon as there's a compatible SMTP extension for 8 bits, I'll at least
- >try to hack it into my mailer (assuming the UIUC IDA sendmail folks don't
- >beat me to it).
-
- "Just send 8 bits" *is* backward compatible. Check your logic.
-
- >But I won't install anything that tries to pull a Nike and
- >"Just Do It" to some unsuspecting mailer somewhere.
-
- Then why on the Earth did you upgrade your software the last time?
-
- --vadim
-
- "Not only is UNIX dead, it's starting to smell bad." -- Rob Pike
-