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- From: kirby@xerox.com (Mike Kirby)
- Subject: Re: Is SEI's CMM being used in Anger or ju
- Message-ID: <1992Dec11.180738.28064@spectrum.xerox.com>
- Sender: news@spectrum.xerox.com
- Reply-To: kirby@xerox.com
- Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
- References: <1992Dec11.170255.27798@netcom.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:07:38 GMT
- Lines: 55
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- In article 27798@netcom.com, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec11.060807.1@mdcbbs.com> royce@mdcbbs.com (Royce D. Myers EDS/Unigraphics) writes:
- >
- > >CMM provides a focus that Deming doesn't, with studies and rationale to
- > >back it
- > >up. I really don't understand this objection to the CMM; it's just a
- > >tool, not
- > >a grade.
- >
- > Oh yes it is. As was mentioned in earlier articles in this thread,
- > numerous DoD agencies have begun using results of SCEs based upon
- > the CMM as criteria for bidder selection. Whether or not it was
- > ever intended for it, the CMM is becoming a union card.
- >
- >
- > --
- > Michael Zimmers | Home: 408 996 1984
- > SoftHelp | Work: 408 996 1965
- > Software Solutions for Open Systems | Data: 408 996 1974
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- The CMM *is* intended to be a grade. The Departement of Defense established the
- Software Engineering Institute at Carnegie Mello University with the express
- intent of developing a system by which the DOD could "grade" contractors. This
- would allow them to determine the credibility of a contractor when biding for
- complex software systems as well as helping the contractor improve their performance
- in developing software systems.
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- I see nothing wrong with establishing a reasonable grading system to understand
- if companies have serious software development capabilities. If I were the DOD
- or even a large company seeking to contract out a large software system I would
- look at the development process of the company that was bidding on the contract.
- Requiring a CMM evalutation to help understand that capability is certainly
- reasonable.
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- The problem is when any grading system begins to mandate specific technologies that
- might not be appropriate to an individual company. To establish higher levels
- of the CMM, it requires a serious ammount of overhead. Should a company discover
- ways to achieve the same results but with a different process structure, any
- CMM-like grade should understand that and take it into account. We don't want to find
- ourselves in the situation where a CMM audit becomes a listing of overhead personel
- and complex documents where the larger the number of overhead and the more pages
- of "standards" documentation becomes the grade. (i.e. My grade is higher then yours
- because I have more pages of docs and more people who don't really do anything).
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- If anyone else has an better ideas how a large company or the DOD can be sure that
- software developed for it will be done right the first time, I would love to hear
- it.
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- Mike Kirby
- Xerox Corp
- E-mail: kirby.roch803@xerox.com
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