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- From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
- Subject: Re: Stupid Licenses (YUCK!)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec19.195941.15504@netcom.com>
- Organization: Self
- References: <1992Dec18.024239.11331@news2.cis.umn.edu> <bhayden.724690634@teal> <1992Dec19.023609.26000@news2.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:59:41 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec19.023609.26000@news2.cis.umn.edu> charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Charles Geyer) writes:
- [ -- related material deleted -- ]
- >
- >It is fair to say that no computer company puts quality first, ahead of
- >featurality. Until they do, quality will remain abysmal.
- >
- I think some put it high enough on their priority list
- to make their products fairly high quality. I would put
- "Turbo-Tax", "Quicken", and Borland's "Turbo-C" in this
- category.
- >The issue is not whether they exercised "due care" or whether they found
- >the last bug. The issue is whether bug fixes for all serious bugs are
- >provided as a matter of course, and by "serious" here I mean anything that
- >affects the functionality of the software, and whether product is simply
- >not shipped with known serious bugs.
- >
- >Every time I say something like this on the net. Industry people tell me
- >that economic realities (according to conventional wisdom) dictate that
- >deadlines come before quality. He who ships first gets the customers.
- >
- Here you have the central issue. As a consultant, I have
- convinced some clients that much of the non-commercial software
- (both public domain and FSF) is of higher quality than the
- commercial equivalents. I have installed 'less', 'RCS', screen,
- gnu-tar, and others on this basis.
-
- I recall one contributor to such software saying, to paraphrase,
- "This product represents me, and I'm not gonna release it until
- its right." In the commercial world, such an attitude would, in
- my opionion, be likely to lead to disaster. So commercial
- vendors DO have to balance their priorities. However, the
- failure to fix significant bugs promptly is unforgivable.
-
- Which means no more business from me and others I can convince
- likewise.
-
- >And that's why computers don't work.
- >
- >(end rant)
- >
- Understandable.
- You do have to be really careful. I evaluate products very
- carefully, using money back guarantees if possible. Once
- I have confidence in a product, such as Turbo-Tax, I note
- whenever the company involved has any major changes, such
- as in leadership or ownership, and then reevaluate before
- I trust updates.
- >--
- >Charles Geyer
- >School of Statistics
- >University of Minnesota
- >charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
-
- Note. I have no interest in any of the software mentioned
- other than that of satisfied user.
- --
- Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
-