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  1. Xref: sparky comp.security.misc:2331 comp.org.eff.talk:7771
  2. Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,comp.org.eff.talk
  3. Path: sparky!uunet!psinntp!dg-rtp!leonardo!meyers
  4. From: meyers@leonardo.rtp.dg.com (Bill Meyers)
  5. Subject: Re: Fun things to do to RTM (was: Internet worm)
  6. Message-ID: <1992Dec17.200359.22163@dg-rtp.dg.com>
  7. Sender: meyers@rtp.dg.com (Bill Meyers)
  8. Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:03:59 GMT
  9. References: <85073@ut-emx.uucp>> <Yf9m8Ta00aw68JHUUR@andrew.cmu.edu> <1992Dec10.184949.6610@glas.rtsg.mot.com>
  10. Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.
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  13. In article <1992Dec10.184949.6610@glas.rtsg.mot.com> waider@glas.rtsg.mot.com (Ronan Waide) writes:
  14. >Geoffrey Spear <gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
  15. [ ... ]
  16. >>    So what you're saying is that it's ok to do illegal things if you don't
  17. >>get caught?  In that case, anything done to RTM will have NO deterrent
  18. [ ... ]
  19. >to "severe punishment of RTM will deter others" - I believe it's been pretty 
  20. >well established that punishment in the extreme [ I believe the canonical
  21. >example is the death penalty for assorted crimes] does not actually impact the
  22. >statistics noticeably;  [ ... ]
  23.  
  24. Not established.  Likely false.  Here's a reference-to-a-reference:
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  26. [ ... ]
  27. >From: jalden@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Joshua M. Alden)
  28. >Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,soc.motss,talk.politics.misc
  29. >Subject: Re: Homosexual rights
  30. >Keywords: Barbarism, anachronism, random state murder
  31. >Message-ID: <1991Jun6.155018.15569@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
  32. >Date: 6 Jun 91 15:50:18 GMT
  33. [ ... ]
  34. >In <49995@ut-emx.uucp> rkcorell@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Lax) writes:
  35. [ ... ]
  36. >>  The death penalty does NOT deter crime.
  37. >
  38. >    On the contrary.  The deterrent effect is significant and
  39. >measurable, though only about 3.5 weeks long.  This is not really the
  40. >appropriate forum, so I won't go into detail.  See _Sociology_, by
  41. >Rodney Stark.
  42. [ ... ]
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