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- From: palmer@Trade_Zone.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul (Cliffy) Palmer)
- Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr
- Message-ID: <1992Dec12.043113.24232@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>
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- Organization: New Technology, Inc.
- References: <1992Dec11.235142.3072@nntp.hut.fi>
- Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:31:13 GMT
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- In article 3072@nntp.hut.fi, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
- >
- >If you turn the paranoia knob clockwise, what you get is a login
- >banner designed to get consent to any surveillance from each and every
- >user by using "computer security" and "intruders" as smoke & mirrors.
- >
- >//Jyrki
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- We must be careful not to confuse rights with privilege.
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- If while visiting a friend, I used his phone and he listened in on the
- conversation, I would not feel that my rights had been violated. I
- would think him very rude and would not use his phone again. Now if he
- were visiting me and listened in on my phone conversation, the
- situation would be different.
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- I have a hard time understanding how guests can make demands of their
- hosts.
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- It seems to be the human condition that after having been granted a
- privilege for a long time, we take it for granted and begin to assume
- that it is our right. ie. the "legal right" to:
- - drive a car
- - come and go as we please
- - drink alcohol
-
- That came out a little more like preaching than I had hoped...so in the
- interests of network bandwidth, if you strongly disagree with me, either
- ignore me or flame me via E-mail
-
- ---
- Paul (Cliffy) Palmer
- E-Mail: palmer@trade_zone.msfc.nasa.gov
-
- I would argue that when a society starts legislating courtesy,
- it is a sure sign that it has started to collapse.
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