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- From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: re: SMTP mail hackers
- Message-ID: <9212131601.AA10037@uu3.psi.com>
- Date: 13 Dec 92 15:00:01 GMT
- Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
- Distribution: world
- Organization: The Internet
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- My users have figured out how to telnet to port 25 and talk SMTP to
- send mail. They have come up with some wonderful usernames like GOD
- and GODAGAIN.
-
- From my simple understanding of SMTP I would guess there is nothing I
- can do about this. I would like to know there really is something I
- could do about it and how to implement it.
-
- No, there really is nothing at all you can do about this. Forging mail using
- SMTP is dead trivial. (Same goes for MAIL-11. Other protocols may be more
- complex, but that doesn't make them secure.)
-
- It's interesting that VMS apparently will make this somewhat harder in a
- future version by requiring system privileges to open a link to the MAIL-11
- object. SOME Unix implementations of TCP/IP have had the ability to impose a
- similar restriction (ports that only a privileged user can open), but as far
- as I know SMTP has never been restricted that way. Solutions of this sort all
- suffer from the same problem: The restriction can easily be gotten around if
- the SENDING system doesn't follow the same rules as the RECEIVING system.
- Since the sending system could be a private workstation or PC where the sender
- has all privileges, the protection is minimal at best.
-
- Only cryptographic protocols of various kinds (signed messages, crypto control
- over who can connect to whom as provided by the DESNC) can really solve the
- problem.
-
- (I'm just waiting for someone to send mail to my boss from *me*
- telling him to %$#^@!)
-
- The only thing you can do is make sure that EVERYONE knows up front mail
- return addresses CANNOT be relied on. Period. (You might try sending a
- message from, oh, someone like Richard_M_Nixon_formally@White.House to
- everyone pointing this out. Humor will often let you get across a message
- that people don't want to hear - let "Mr. Nixon" point out the dangers of
- modern electronics.)
- -- Jerry
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