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- Subject: Re: Extension cable for DEC keyboard and mouse
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- From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
- Date: 12 Dec 92 01:49:45 GMT
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- leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) writes:
- > Keyboards are an interesting story. The standard cable for an LK201 (and, as
- > far as I know, for subsequent keyboards - but I don't have any handy to look
- > at) uses standard RJ11 (modular telephone) connectors. (No, NOT the DEC MMJ -
- > Modified Modular Jack - standard RJ11). This means that, in theory, you can
- > use a piece of telephone wire (though I don't recall if you need to find one
- > that is wired "straight through" - telephone wire "swaps sides").
-
- No, it's *not* an RJ11. I can't remember the plug type it is, (and my parts
- catalogues are positively unhelpful -- they list the part, but give only a
- part number, not a "common name"). What it is is a telephone _handset_
- cable; the connectors are four way (as opposed to six way for an RJ11).
- And yes, they do swap sides. An extension cable would have to be straight;
- either that or you install a longer cable that is swapped.
-
- I have serveral keyboard/telephone cables around here -- I tend to replace
- keyboard cables with the ones from LK201s because the LK201 cables have long
- stretches of straight cable whereas most keyboard cables are curly all the
- way. My VAXstation keyboard is connected via an Amiga cable since it has
- little need of the longer cable.
-
- However, the cable that will shift the system box away from the workstation
- head is a 15-way shielded cable. The keyboard (and mouse if you're using
- anything newer than the original brick) are plug into the head end of this
- cable, so there's only one cable coming out of the body. I imagine that
- just adding another 15-way cable to the body end of this cable (eg a DECmate/
- Rainbow/Pro/VT240 video cable) would do the trick.
-
- My VAXstation II's head is some 8' away from the back of the machine it's
- plugged into, using the standard cable. Are more modern machines given
- shorter (or even different?) cables?
-
- > Mice, I can't help you with. At least the old box-shaped mouse used the same
- > connecter as an Ethernet AUI cable. (I know this from sad experience: I
- > accidentally plugged a mouse into the Ethernet port of a VAXStation II.
- > Killed the mouse instantly.)
-
- You're still using that evil thing? I keep mine around for the day I
- take up fishing again. Modern mice plug into the "digitiser" hole at the
- head end of the video cable, and don't require an extra cable all the way
- back to the system box.
-
- Personally, I dislike mice that operate so badly that if you run the mouse
- in a circle the pointer describes a square. (I aquired a hockey puck mouse,
- and relegated the brick to junk box where it belongs before anyone could
- blink.)
-
- > There is a potential safety problem in doing this, however. Standard
- > telephone "wire" isn't really wire - the conductors are foil. They have
-
- WOT?
-
- If this is true, the US electronics industry *deserves* to go down in the
- hands of Far East manufacturers. A quick survey of telephone and keyboard
- cables around here reveals stranded copper wire in all of 'em, and I've
- not seen a foil conductor in such cables yet (apart from cable shields, but
- that's different). Of course all "telephone" gear around here is of Far
- East or local manufacture....
-
- > fairly high resistance. Older LK201's drew a fair amount of power through
- > their cables. If a short develops in an LK201, the power supply fuse is
- > supposed to blow. Apparently, if the shorted LK201 is connected through the
- > foil telephone wire, instead of through the must lower resistance standard
- > cable, the current it can draw remains low enough so that the fuse doesn't
- > blow. LK201's in this state have been known to catch fire.
-
- A colleague in the dim distant past once decided he liked a third party's
- keyboard but not the screen -- so he plugged the keyboard into a VT220....
-
- He powered down Real Fast when the keyboard cable became too hot to touch...
- (By some miracle, neither the keyboard or terminal were damaged. Damn lucky.)
-
- > At one time, DEC DID sell a keyboard extension cable. (It was intended for
- > use with a long-dead product whose name now escapes me - it was a workstation
- > wannabe that used a controller that plugged into a 780 and connected to the
- > tube using a fiber optic link.) I don't know if this is still available.
-
- The VAXstation 100. You too could have a VAX 11/780 (or 11/750, and
- presumably any other Unibus VAX) as your personal workstation.
-
- I thought the head connected only via the fibre. I think I know where a
- manual is for one of these....
-
- --
- Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555) don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
- Network Manager, Computing Services Centre don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
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