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- From: agpro@numond.msk.su (Andrew M. Gershun)
- Subject: Is there tool to write for Windows on C quickly?
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:40:32 GMT
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- Organization: APEX corp.
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- I like Windows. And I like to write programs on C for Windows. But...
-
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- === Is writing for Windows on C easy and quick? ===
-
-
- I think easy, but ... too much words. Authors of C have escaped of this danger
- (and many C-programs written BW (before Windows) looked like a puzzle or
- memory dump).
-
- 1. Many sources of programs for Windows have the same structure, because Windows
- has own style of writing sources.
-
- Now I explane my thought:
- All program has a WinMain() procedure which has ether description
- of class "MainWnd" (or "ProgMan" same) and code for creating main
- window CreateWindow().
- And usually parameters for CreateWindow() are same:
- e.g.
- hWnd = CreateWindow("Bum","Bum",
- WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW,CW_USEDEFAULT,CW_USEDEFAULT,
- CW_USEDAFAULT,CW_USEDEFAULT,NULL,NULL,hInstance,NULL);
-
- And so on on every line....
-
- How much bytes and how little sense!
-
- Every program I must begin with this lines (with a small variations),
- and all sense of DummyWin program I can describe on 2 lines:
-
- // Voila!
-
- WinMain {
- mainwnd Bum; // Main window is a main window
- }
-
- //and nothing more.
-
- You want to make HelloWin? Ok!
- Change line beginnig with "mainwnd" on:
- mainwnd HellowWin "Hello World and Windows!"
-
- You must change only name of application from program to program.
-
- /*
- When I have wrote my first hello.c for Windows (30 lines as you see
- instead 3 in C for DOS), I was disappointed. Wah! Simple program and so many
- lines! I think so Windows lost many beginner-programmers.
- */
-
- You can say that it is like VB (or other Basics), but I speak that all
- program on C for Windows look like bad Basic with extra parenthis and
- commas.
-
- 2. This is an agressive policy of Microsoft on sofware market.
- For example:
- You write an identificator "MakeProcInstance" during 3
- or 2 (or 1) second.
- The Microsoft programmer do not write "M-a-k-a-BackSpace-e-P-r-o-c-
- -I-n-s-t-a-n-c-e",
- he writes Alt-MPI and recives MakeProcInstance( );,
- or maybe $MPI, or simple MPI(); (during 0.5 sec!!!)
-
- And now compare this! 2-3 to 0.5 is 4-6 times.
- So the Microsoft programmer has advantage against you - real programmer
- because during your life you can write on 5 times progams less than he.
-
- 3. Do you know that all Windows functions definitions are writing
- with first letter capital? Why? For clearity?
-
- 4. Some other question:
- Why ALL Windows applications have a same skeleton?
- Why case WM_ ?
- Why CW_USEDEFAULT is so long identificator?
- Why my program looks like a novel?
- Why every line of my program exeeds 80 columns? I am not typewriter
- and I do not like to turn my head on every line!
- If Microsoft use undeclared calls in his programs, it can
- use a different notation! And SDK was made for naives?
-
- 5. What can solve this problems on my mind:
- a) normal preprocessor (Borland's object OWL is not solution because
- it is not so soft, and there is possibility its incompatibility
- with other windows-like systems in future) for Windows C.
- b) new no-much-word standards on programming for Windows-like
- systems (may be like on Sun).
-
- P.S. I beg pardon Microsoft (thank you for Windows!),
- and many others who speak English and C...
-
- ==== The program is so long, but the life is so short...====
-
- Andrew M. Gershun.
-
- P.S.S. Am I naives boy in my "far away Russia"? Maybe you write you
- program with same tools as I dream? Or, maybe, there is other
- style than "like-Petzold" or "like-SDK" style? Plase answer me!
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