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- From: rjhoffma@iastate.edu (Richard J. Hoffmann)
- Subject: Re: Windows and NCSA telnet....
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- Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
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- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:28:04 GMT
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-
- Since I posted last night, I've been thinking about some of the other
- recent lines in this thread. There seems to be an impression that NCSA
- Telnet can't be run unless it's full screen and has exclusive control
- when under Windows 3.1. I have found that I have no problem minimizing
- it on the desktop and running another program while it continues to
- operate in the background. The system slows, as it always does when
- multitasking a DOS application, but it does run for me in the
- background. This applies to an active telent session or simply to
- having Telnet lurking in server mode. Last night I posted the
- telnet.pif that comes with the distribution from Illinois. I did modify
- that somewhat to have it run in the background, so I'm posting my
- modifications at the end of this message.
-
- To be completely clear about my system, I have an SMC EtherCard Plus,
- Elite16T, in my generic 486-33 clone. The packet driver that comes with
- the card doesn't work very well over our campus ethernet (very slow file
- transfers by ftp), so I use wd8003e.com instead. I load it as follows:
-
- wd8003e -w 0x60 10 0x280 0xd800 through my autoexec.bat.
-
- I read with interest the advice about using
- pktmux, but I haven't gotten around to trying it myself. I start NCSA
- Telnet from a batch file (telserv.bat to put it in server mode or
- telnet.bat to start a terminal session). The telnet.bat is exactly in
- the form that comes with the Telnet package when requested from
- Illinois. The batch files are started through the *.pif posted below,
- modified to load the correct batch file, but otherwise identical for
- server or terminal modes.
-
- With this system, I can leave a terminal session, do something else, and
- return to it where I left off. The host does not log me off. Or I can
- have the server mode running and ftp service is always available to
- remote PCs.
-
- I intend to try pktmux to allow ftp and terminal service to coexist, but
- the way things are, it's an either/or situation on my system.
-
- I have tried WinQVT/Net, and I agree that it has the advantage that it
- is a real Windows application. Minimizing it doesn't exact the same
- performance penaltiy that a DOS application does. It also allows
- simultaneous terminal and ftp sessions, and I especially like the fact
- that it allows separate maintenance of anonymous ftp and authorized
- access. Version 3.0.3, which is the only on I've tested, does allow
- keyboard mapping. In fact, it has a nice screen that allows you to do
- so interactively. I have just ordered my registered copy. I do still
- expect to use NCSA, though.
-
- Here is telserv.pif as I use it to multitask NCSA Telnet in server mode:
-
- -------------------------cut here-----------------------------
- table
- !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
- @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
- begin 644 telserv.pif
- M (-496QN970@4V5R=F5R(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @("" ( 0SI<0D%40TA<z
- M5$5,4T525BY"050 (" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @y
- M(" @(" @(" @$ (" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @x
- M(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @/P (" @w
- M(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @v
- M(" @( ! /\94 !P u
- M t
- M s
- M .!@34E#4D]33T94(%!)1D58 (<! !Q 5=)3D1/5U,@,S@V(#,Nr
- M, % IT!: " H 9 " $ ! "A0& !\ q
- M @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @p
- M(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(" @(%=)3D1/5U,@,C@V(#,N, #__QL"!@ o
- & :n
- m
- end
- -------------------------cut here-----------------------------
-
- Hope this helps someone. I make no claims that this is elegant or
- correct, but it works for me.
-
- Dick
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