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- Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
- Subject: Re: Is MINIX much better than LINUX?
- Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:08:29 -0600
- Organization: Armstrong Lab MIS, Brooks AFB TX
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- >
- >Can't pass on this one... The simple answer is a resounding NO.
- >
-
- Linus,
- How soon they forget. They leave home and the folks seem like such
- bumphins :-).
-
- You DID cut your operating system teeth on Minix, as I recall. It was
- pretty spiffy at the time, wasn't it?
-
- >There are two circumstances when you may find minix better:
- >
- > - studies with the book: minix documentation is better, and if you are
- > reading the Tanenbaum book, minix will naturally be closer to what is
- > covered in the text.
- > - if linux won't run on your hardware (ie PS/2 or any non-386
- > hardware, or <2MB memory).
- >
-
- It seems to me that these are both pretty convincing reasons. To make the
- latter clearer, If you are using less machine than a 386 (like the '286
- I am writing this on), then Minix is an EXCELLENT choice. As the system
- becomes more and more POSIX compliant, it is getting steadily better. It
- does COST more than Linux, it is not as good as choice as 386bsd or Linux
- for 386 and bigger machines.
-
- >Linux has all the features that minix has (except minix-specific things
- >like amoeba support), as well as a lot of features minix doesn't have:
- >
- [lots of excellent reasons to get Linux deleted]
- >
- >And a lot more...
- >
-
- and requires a lot more memory, a bigger CPU, and more hard disk space.
- Let's see how many processes you can get running on a 8088 and a 20Meg
- hard drive using Linux (trick question, Linux is 386 specific).
-
- >Linux is lacking in (relative to some other unixes, not minix):
- >
- > - No sysv shared memory yet (well, there are patches, but not part of
- > the official kernel), and no real mmap().
- > - Not binary compatible with anything
- > - Documentation and "real" support (although the c.o.linux newsgroup is
- > pretty good)
- > - ...?
- >
-
- Minix doesn't have these either.
-
- >386bsd has a more mature networking setup, as well as having the
- >advantage of being "the real McCoy". Check out both comp.os.linux and
- >comp.unix.bsd for details.
- >
-
- 386bsd won't run on a 286 either.
-
- >Note that both linux and 386bsd are good for people who aren't afraid to
- >set up the system themselves, and are willing to find documentation from
- >various sources. Coherent (USD $99) might be an alternative if you want
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |-X
-
- If you can't say something nice, don't say anything; so I won't.
-
- All kidding aside, Minix is the right choice for people who can't afford
- to jog out everytime Intel tells us to upgrade. Glen Overby told me once
- that 'you have to get the best computer you can before you're married, because
- it has to last you a lifetime.' I've been married 15 years and can think about
- either sending my oldest to college, or a 386. Decisions, decisions. With
- those kinds of constraints, my el cheapo '286 will support three or four
- virtual consoles at a time, and do a lot of the Unix stuff I want to do. Some
- of it is out of range (X for example), but I'll deal with it, and develop
- clever ways to work around those problems.
- It is still a compact little OS that uses the features of my 286 rather
- smartly. I like it and will continue to use it (at least until I win the
- lottery).
- I just thought I'd jump up to defend this poor beast. It seems that so many
- of the faithful (remember the PDP-11 memory Management debate, or the
- efficient vs. effective falmefest?) have departed for sexier waters. I'll
- hang around here as long as there is power in this old '286, and keep on
- trying to figure out how the 'nice' patches work :-)
-
- Just call me one of the old fogeys...
-
- TSgt Dave Burgess
- NCOIC AL/MIS
- Brooks AFB, TX
-