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- From: arl@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke)
- Subject: Re: Mailing List ?
- In-Reply-To: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI's message of Wed, 9 Dec 1992 23:31:56 GMT
- Message-ID: <ARL.92Dec13104729@deathstar.cs.hut.fi>
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- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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- <1992Dec9.205759.8368@sfu.ca> <1992Dec9.233156.4910@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:47:31 GMT
- Lines: 79
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- In article <1992Dec9.233156.4910@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
- : rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
- : >Does the mailing list run on niksula or not?
- :
- : The mailing list linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi (or joker.hut.fi, same
- : machine) is not, currently, in operation and has been down since
- : Saturday.
-
- Yes, due heavy load we had to take list off, and I
- reprogrammed Mail-Net totally with perl. Now it
- can handle bigger lists better - massive lists
- are digested.
-
- : >When I first stopped receiving mail from the list, I tried a finger
- : >@niksula.hut.fi. Sure enough it was up and had plenty of people
- : >logged in. It still is up, as of 5 seconds ago. Lars (above) says
- : >it crashed.
- :
- : As far as I understand, niksula did crash (a couple of times), but is
- : (and seems to stay) up now that the mailing list is disabled. I could
- : be wrong (I'm not a niksula user).
-
- True, it did crash multiple times. There may also
- be a hardware bug, but after taking list off it
- has not crashed ;-).
-
- If you see plenty of people in a computer with finger
- it does not mean they are logged in. We use GNU finger,
- and finger @joker.cs.hut.fi shows about 20 machines
- (i.e. niksula 'student laboratory').
-
- : >Others say they are upgrading the mail software. Can
- : >anyone tell us what the real story with the mailing list is?
- :
- : Well, they _did_ upgrade the mail software also. This was also
- : because of the mailing list: it seems that sendmail wasn't able to
- : send out the more than 8000 mails per day (on a silent day :), so they
- : changed to a different mailer, but it didn't help much because the
- : computer still had problems.
-
- We dropped sendmail and installed zmailer, but it seems
- that although good ideas in it, it's not too good and
- stable. Maybe our postmaster installs smail as soon
- as possible (within year or two ;-).
-
- : The mailing list is not permanently out of order, however. It should
- : start working again in a few days, but it might have to start sending
- : mails in a digest format, i.e. several incoming mails are concatenated
- : to one, with about one digest mail going out per day. This should
- : reduce the mail load considerably.
-
- I finally got all modules to work .. 2500 lines perl code,
- and still needs more. I have been programming it, and
- no time for news etc... but "The 1st Linus meeting" ;-)
- took time also little bit ;-).
-
- : One problem with the mailing list is that while it has always been
- : mostly meant for small work groups, it is also used for asking
- : questions (often enough questions almost directly from the FAQ) which
- : would be better to post to comp.os.linux (or answered by reading the
- : FAQ).
-
- I hope people understand that sending FAQs through mail
- to 900 people (biggest list here), is not what one
- wants from a mailing list.
-
- We have had only few ignorant person sending mailing
- list requests to mailing list within half a year,
- the software prevents those .. so I do not need
- to blacklist people any more ..
-
- So finally the system is up and running ..
- [the famous last words, until he notices the system
- has looped sent 7000 mails ... like .. ].
-
- : Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
- : MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
-
- arl
-