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- Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!hydra!klaava!torvalds
- From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
- Subject: Re: Coh/linux/gcc/etc
- Message-ID: <1992Dec13.130552.16237@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
- Followup-To: alt.test
- Organization: University of Helsinki
- References: <9212102041.AA03015@PCS.CNU.EDU> <92121119690@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca>
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 13:05:52 GMT
- Lines: 52
-
- In article <92121119690@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca> root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser) writes:
- >shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU (Charles Shannon Hendrix) writes:
- >> > I was quoted $49 for GCC.
- >>
- >> A little high for a GCC compiler don't you think? If they put
- >> it on raven or some other public access, with complete source, then the
- >> $49 for those who don't have net access is OK. A little high, but OK.
- >>
- >
- >Sounds like it might be a license violation.
-
- PLEASE people: read the Copyleft a bit more carefully: you may sell GNU
- software for whatever the market can take: if people pay $49 for gcc,
- feel free. It gets to be a licence violation only if you don't make
- sources available, or if you try to change the copyleft in any way.
-
- The GNU "free" truly doesn't concern itself with the monetary value very
- much: the FSF itself sells GNU programs, and even encourages people that
- have FTP to get them on tape instead (along with printed manuals etc),
- as that is one of the ways the FSF gets money. The "free" mainly means
- that you cannot restrict the access to sources and/or copying after you
- have bought the binary: but it does *not* mean you have to give out
- binaries for free.
-
- The reason GNU software is associated with the "no cost" free, is that
- once anybody has bought a version of a GNU program, he is quite wellcome
- to copy it and distribute it to others for free. So if MWC sells gcc
- for $49, it's enough that one person buys it, and then he can put it out
- for ftp.
-
- The above may sound ludicrous: why should MWC port gcc at all in that
- case? Part of the reason is surely the fact that they want to make known
- that Coherent is a "real" unix, and by the standards of many (but not
- all) this does include gcc (or at least one good ANSI compiler). So
- putting one person to port gcc (Doug?) pays off indirectly even if they
- don't expect to make anything off gcc.
-
- Another reason is that you can actually make money off GNU software even
- under the copyleft conditions: many people prefer to buy a
- ready-packaged product that comes with a bound manual or whatever
- instead of getting the thing by ftp. Alternatively you can make money
- on supporting a GNU product, and while this is probably not something
- MWC would want to do, that is how Cygnus makes money.
-
- Just take a look into the BYTE advertisement section: you'll see people
- selling GNU software (or copylefted but not GNU - like linux) on CD-rom
- for more than $49. And they don't get sued.
-
- Linus
-
- PS. Followups misdirected in order to discourage unnecessary flamage on
- the copyleft: do it on gnu.misc.discuss if you want to.
-