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- From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
- Subject: Re: bringing family to usenix
- Message-ID: <Bz6Jnz.FDy@zoo.toronto.edu>
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:11:58 GMT
- References: <tommy.724214172@hilbert>
- Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
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- In article <tommy.724214172@hilbert> tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold) writes:
- >I'll be at the January Usenix in San Diego. Since my company pays my
- >airfare, I figure I'll take my family. It's a good time for a vacation...
-
- The theory is good. The practice is that Usenix (done right) is not a
- vacation and can't be treated as one.
-
- >If they stay for the entire period of the conference, they won't see me
- >anyway since I'll probably be totally busy the whole day, every day.
- >If, when I get to the hotel after a day of "conferring", she'll ask for
- >a break from the kids which I will be unable give her since I'll be too
- >tired.
-
- Indeed so. There is no remedy for this, really, unless you deliberately
- decide that you're going to skip a substantial fraction of the conference.
- You have to plan on the assumption that attending Usenix is *work*, and
- work with unusually long hours at that. It may not feel like it to you,
- but this is the way it works from your family's viewpoint. Successful
- planning has to start with realistic assumptions; if you're going to
- be busy all day and tired afterward, and your wife thinks you're going
- to be available to help with the kids, there is trouble ahead.
-
- The only good approach is to take your vacation before (or after). Come
- a week early, vacation vigorously, and either see them off homeward before
- the conference starts or have them do something which doesn't need you.
-
- >But if my wife comes at or near the end of the conference, she somehow
- >has to take the kids on the plane by herself. They will be aged one
- >and four.
-
- This is problematic, to be sure. I don't have personal experience with
- such situations (no kids), but it looks to me like if you assume no air
- travel without both adults along *and* no outside help with the kids
- during the conference *and* you attending the conference full time,
- it just isn't going to work as a pleasant vacation. You need to
- find some way around at least one of those assumptions. If one-adult
- air travel definitely isn't practical, then your wife needs relief
- somehow: professional babysitting, cooperation with other attendees
- with the same problem, or you taking some time out in the middle.
-
- >I know some people bring families. How?
-
- The one case I saw close up (a friend of mine), they came early for
- vacationing, he included her and the kids in his activities when
- possible (e.g. having them along for dinner with friends), she had
- some help (my girlfriend went touristing with her and the kids one
- day), and I think he took significant time out too.
- --
- "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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