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- From: bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden)
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- Subject: Re: CPSR & Caller ID?
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- Date: 18 Dec 92 14:41:32 GMT
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- bobd@marune.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob DeBula) writes:
-
- >As the purchaser of a privacy enhancing phone service option
- >(we have an unlisted number), I will be very peeved if I start
- >receiving sales calls because some marketing slime starts
- >selling my number as part of a "likely purchasers" list generated
- >from caller ID. A big part of the reason we got an unlisted number
- >was to prevent sales calls (they sometimes still happen due to
- >organizations or computered phone ads just running the gamit of
- >all possible phone numbers in a certain area).
-
- Though I must admit to the opposite bias - this is the first legitimate
- reason against caller ID that I have seen. The battered women argument
- doesn't hold water - there are too many ways to solve their problem
- without impacting caller ID. Besides, how many battered women need to
- call their husbands from a neighbor's or friend's phone?
-
- Unfortunately, due to ISDN, those businesses that you are worried
- about, especially the national ones most likely to sell your number,
- already have caller-ID. You just don't know it because the noise
- made when AMEX made it obvious by answering the phone with your
- name. They have it, they use it, they just don't advertise it.
-
- >At the very least, folks who pay for the service of having their
- >phone number unlisted should have their privacy guaranteed.
-
- >I'd like to see the burden the other way about though. No caller ID
- >*unless* the caller specifies that it is OK with them (or even just
- >provide some mechanism for the average phone customer to request that they
- >not be IDed). I think caller ID has the potential to be a resource
- >wasting nuisance on par with gratuitous junk mail. What is the
- >huge societal benefit to be accrued from caller ID anyway (other
- >than making the Ferengi style marketeers happy that is)?
-
- Well, I like my privacy also. This means though that I would like to
- know who is calling me - often before I answer the phone. Caller-ID
- would bring some type of accountability to using the phone. If someone
- is going to call you, you can determine who (or at least where) is
- calling you. I cannot think of a legitimate reason for someone to call
- me at my home, and not be willing to give me their telephone number.
- (after all - they have mine).
-
- Bruce E. Hayden
- (303) 758-8400
- bhayden@csn.org
-