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- From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
- Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
- Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
- Message-ID: <1gjj5oINN9ll@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
- Date: 15 Dec 92 03:24:40 GMT
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- Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
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- In article <CKD.92Dec14003606@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
- >JS> == John Stanley <stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU>
- >
- > JS> Neither of these puts me in charge of my little section of the DNS.
- > JS> They put me in contact with someone else, who is in charge of my
- > JS> little section. Not the same thing.
- >
- >Then my boss isn't really in charge of the machines at my site, because he
- >has to go through one of the sysadmins to make a configuration change?
-
- There is a bit of a difference between your boss, who is in charge of
- the system admins who make the changes, and me, who is in charge of
- nobody at the site who maintains my DNS records. Unless you think that
- having someone keep an MX record for you somehow makes you in charge of
- the person doing it.
-
- >course, such programs are easily written, made group-executable, and
- >installed, in order to give the proper "feeling of control" to people like
- >you.
-
- Just what people are "people like" me? You seem to be missing the point
- of what is being said here and wandering into insult. I am not
- complaining about not being able to control "my section of the DNS",
- only trying to correct an erronious statement that anyone can. I have
- said that twice, now. Will it sink in this time?
-
- >If no mail arrives at this site for an hour, something's wrong. Your site
- >may vary. If *nobody* sends you mail, don't you wonder why?
-
- Please explain how I am to tell the difference between nobody sending
- me mail and my site not receiving any mail. It has been 30 minutes here
- since I've gotten any mail. Is there a problem? (Could be, I've spent
- most of today trying to work around a bogosity in sendmail.) My UUCP
- site hasn't gotten any mail for the last two days. Is there a problem?
-
- Until there is a known piece of mail missing, I have no idea whether
- nothing has been sent or it was sent and bounced.
-
- > JS> And sites can do routing without keeping the entire UUCP maps on their
- > JS> local disk, or even local net.
- >
- >That's not doing routing. That's doing punting.
-
- Routing, punting, same difference. The mail is being sent somewhere that
- it can be taken care of. It might not be the most direct route, but it
- is being forwarded on A route. Neither pathalias nor DNS guarantee the
- most direct or lowest cost routes.
-